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    And now Turkey tariffs

    Turkey increases tariffs on some U.S. goods, escalating feud

    Better than the dump!

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    I think you post these to cause mayhem and see how close our responses get to being political in nature. I would sure like to hear your perspective on the increasing tariffs.
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    HAPPENING NOW: Trump Officially Outsmarted China, They’re Now Waving the ‘White Flag’

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    I will second Patriot76's question in another way do you have an opionion and anything to substantiate it? I have lots but try very hard to keep them off the forum. 73, Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    I will second Patriot76's question in another way do you have an opionion and anything to substantiate it? I have lots but try very hard to keep them off the forum. 73, Mike
    I'm going to keep the cap on my pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    I think you post these to cause mayhem and see how close our responses get to being political in nature. I would sure like to hear your perspective on the increasing tariffs.
    My fear is if no one will buy our steel, then all of the steel jobs that this was supposed to get us will not matter. Turkeys retaliation is only symbolic as we don't have much trade. I normally pick one fight at a time, but it seems we are out to piss every nation off at the same time.

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    i will say something: Trump is NOT the Great White Hope
    he is just another puppet of the Zionist banking cartel thats been controlling the US for very long.
    just like Obama, Clinton, Bush etc
    their names, races & faces may be different but the puppetmasters remain the same.

    Trump is a racist bigot and seems to attract similar supporters.
    he is also very impulsive and has lots of Zionist advisers around him, who know how to manipulate him so that the masses think these "bright" decisions he makes, like imposing/increasing tariffs on others, is something he came up with all by himself. They dont realise hes being instructed what to do by very sly & cunning people.
    his main handler is his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

    they are using these puppet leaders to destroy the US step by step....Make America Great isnt on their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    My fear is if no one will buy our steel, then all of the steel jobs that this was supposed to get us will not matter. Turkeys retaliation is only symbolic as we don't have much trade. I normally pick one fight at a time, but it seems we are out to piss every nation off at the same time.
    US Steel planning to add more than 800 jobs this year

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/11/us-s...this-year.html

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    Someone neg repped me.. Said my comment was racist and unAmerican.....
    The truth hurts..moreso when ur a coward.

    from what i understand, this entire episode centers around Andrew Craig Brunson
    a pastor who is accused of 2 main crimes:
    1-espionage
    2-engaging in missionary activities under the cover of providing humanitarian aid to asylum seekers.

    we all know that CIA agents like to use the cover of aid workers, missionaries, journalists, photographers, US embassy staff etc to justify/explain their presence in any country.

    and this pastor, while not actively spying himslef, is accused of
    leading a large network of CIA operatives working to destabilize Turkey.
    he also lied to the Turks and said he is there to provide humanitarian assistance to refugees from Syria but he was trying to convert them to Christianity.

    theres been many US missionaries & pastors who were arrested/detained/deported in Turkey in the past but that never warrant such a reaction from the US.
    so it leads ppl to believe that this time the Turks are correct when they say this guy was also engaging in espionage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msmoorad View Post
    [...] Trump is NOT the Great White Hope
    he is just another puppet of the Zionist banking cartel [...] Trump is a racist bigot [...] and has lots of Zionist advisers around him, who know how to manipulate him [...]
    You call someone a 'racist' while using racial slurs and stereotypes yourself.
    How does that work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmoorad View Post
    Someone neg repped me.. Said my comment was racist and unAmerican.....
    The truth hurts..moreso when ur a coward.

    from what i understand, this entire episode centers around Andrew Craig Bruson
    a pastor who is accused of 2 main crimes:
    1-espionage
    2-engaging in missionary activities under the cover of providing humanitarian aid to asylum seekers.

    we all know that CIA agents like to use the cover of aid workers, missionaries, journalists, photographers, US embassy staff etc to justify/explain their presence in any country.

    and this pastor, while not actively spying himslef, is accused of
    leading a large network of CIA operatives working to destabilize Turkey.
    he also lied to the Turks and said he is there to provide humanitarian assistance to refugees from Syria but he was trying to convert them to Christianity.

    theres been many US missionaries & pastors who were arrested/detained/deported in Turkey in the past but that never warrant such a reaction from the US.
    so it leads ppl to believe that this time the Turks are correct when they say this guy was also engaging in espionage.
    I have enjoyed your perspective on the scrap industry and you have provided some great information on the forum. I am confused why you dislike the group of people known to be the fathers of the scrap industry.

    With that said I am going to take a guess here based on your numerous attacks on America, the Jewish faith, and our military - you were denied a visa to the United States and therefore missed the plane because you consider yourself a member of the Afrikaner Resistance Movement. Is this what you meant when you said the truth hurts?

    I apologize to Hobofinds and have no intention to derail your thread, just trying to get clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    I have enjoyed your perspective on the scrap industry and you have provided some great information on the forum. I am confused why you dislike the group of people known to be the fathers of the scrap industry.

    With that said I am going to take a guess here based on your numerous attacks on America, the Jewish faith, and our military - you were denied a visa to the United States and therefore missed the plane because you consider yourself a member of the Afrikaner Resistance Movement. Is this what you meant when you said the truth hurts?

    I apologize to Hobofinds and have no intention to derail your thread, just trying to get clarification.
    nope- ive spent over 13 months in total in the US
    ive been to almost all the major cities from NY down to Miami and then west out to Dallas & Houston and then from there back to Atlanta.
    ive met LOTS of good folks- of all races, colours. there were some nasty fellows but they werent all whites, some were Latinos & some were black.

    i also dont like to get involved in politics here but since most of you are white Americans and many of you are military vets & i suspect Trump supporters, im using the opportunity to speak to you about whats going on.

    it may be that you dont understand
    or maybe u dont want to accept the truth and prefer to pat yourselves on the back about "serving your country".
    lets face it: nobody likes to accept that what they believed most of their lives is a lie.

    even worse is when u have made lots of sacrifices for what you believed was a noble & righteous cause ...then u later learn it was all LIES and YOU are the bad guys/aggressors.

    my apologies to hobofinds also if ive derailed your thread but ive addressed the reason behind the tariffs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    I think you post these to cause mayhem and see how close our responses get to being political in nature. I would sure like to hear your perspective on the increasing tariffs.
    Hobofinds - I am truly sorry and was just joking with the statement about political mayhem. I forgot about:

    Msmoorad - I did not know Jared Kushner was Jewish.

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    Kushner has a younger brother, Joshua, and two sisters. He married to Ivanka Trump, whom "everyone in the family seems to acknowledge" is Donald Trump's "favorite" child,[128] in a Jewish ceremony on October 25, 2009. They had met in 2005 through mutual friends.[129][130][131] Kushner and his wife (who converted to Judaism in 2009[132]) are Modern Orthodox Jews, keep a kosher home, and observe the Jewish Shabbat.[133][134][135] They have three children, born between 2011 and 2016.[136] In 2017, federal disclosures suggested Kushner and his wife had assets worth at least $240 million, and as much as $740 million.[98][137] They also have an art collection, estimated to be worth millions that was not mentioned in the financial disclosures initially,[138] and enjoy visiting art studios.[139] The United States Office of Government Ethics has said that the updated disclosures comply with the regulations and laws.[140]

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    With that said...

    Let me touch on a couple points in various posts -

    Being offended over MS post - some of you asked his opinion. Don't get upset when his politics differ from yours. Not every member here is in the US not every member here wants to discuss politics or religion in any way shape or form. Til the rules change...he can say his piece even if we, you, or I don't agree with him. Just like all you can. Ah...equality..a splendid if not difficult thing to achieve.

    Being offended over Hobo - Again...some asked his opinion. Far as if he's posting for trolling, serious, or whatever...you can ignore his thread if you think he's just trolling with a political subject. Again like above...I may not agree but til the rules change...he can post just like the rest of us. We don't have to like it, but we do have to accept it. If you feel otherwise...there are options you can take. We'll touch on those later.

    Everyone being a Trump supporter - Some of us don't like either party. Some of us come here to focus on other things an not politics or religion. I'd appreciate it if we could keep it that way. An if not well..again...I can just skip the thread I reckon. This makes me sad though. An honestly...as much as I like you guys and respect you, I don't come here for your political thoughts an plans, an etc etc etc. Plenty of forums an comment sections on the internet for all that though, no need to reinvent the wheel here.

    With all that said....


    Am remember...We can disagree all day long on whatever, just do it respectfully. Enough hate, intolerance, an other assorted not so nice things in the world already, do we really need to add to it? Yea I know. I'll shut up an go back to my goats an quotes. Less drama.



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    Oh. I forgot the options I mentioned above...

    Here you go..

    1. Ignore poster.
    2. Report thread (Little symbol at bottom of post)
    3. Give rep, good or bed..again..little symbol at bottom of the post in question.
    4.There are probably more but those 3 alone can help you a ton if you see something that offends you, or you feel doesn't belong on here.

    Or..just bicker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by msmoorad View Post
    i will say something: Trump is NOT the Great White Hope
    he is just another puppet of the Zionist banking cartel thats been controlling the US for very long.
    just like Obama, Clinton, Bush etc
    their names, races & faces may be different but the puppetmasters remain the same.

    Trump is a racist bigot and seems to attract similar supporters.
    he is also very impulsive and has lots of Zionist advisers around him, who know how to manipulate him so that the masses think these "bright" decisions he makes, like imposing/increasing tariffs on others, is something he came up with all by himself. They dont realise hes being instructed what to do by very sly & cunning people.
    his main handler is his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

    they are using these puppet leaders to destroy the US step by step....Make America Great isnt on their agenda.
    Zionism is a European settler colonial movement to establish and expand a settler state in Palestine and turn it into Israel. It's main effect is the dispossession of the Palestinian people to facilitate this colonization. It is in every way analogous to what groups of Europeans have done to natives in the Americas or Australia, what Indonesians did to the Timorese, what Han Chinese are currently doing to Tibetans and so on. Most Zionists are Christian (tens of millions of Americans and Australians are Christian Zionists, many times more than the entire global Jewish population whether Zionist, anti-Zionist or azionist). When you're writing "Zionist" what you mean is "Jew" and the Jew writing this comment would very much appreciate honesty on your part instead of trying to obfuscate your anti-semitism. Zionism is tremendously harmful but mostly to Palestinians. There is no such thing as a "Zionist banking cartel". The phrase doesn't even make sense because Zionism doesn't fit that context. It's like saying "Zionist chain of laundromats" or "Zionist ice cream conglomerate". And it's lazy analysis to say harmful US policies aren't because of the tremendous political power large corporations and the rich hold and that this power is codified into US law with things like corporate personhood, unlimited legal bribery called "campaign donations" and such but instead because of a secret cabal of Jews (who would exercise and enforce policy how by the way? How do these shadowy cabals supposedly make things happen? Tiny secret groups can only have so much collective expertise and organizing capacity so how does it supposedly function?). Like all anti-semitic canards it has no basis in fact. Instead it's a myth easy to wrap one's head around that takes the place of more complex systemic analysis which takes dedicated study. It's way simpler to say it's "the Rothschilds" instead of "the entire system of big business and government" which is a way bigger and harder target and one that keeps (mal?)functioning no matter the individuals involved.

    As example, by most accounts your supervillain Jared Kushner has the brains of a box of rocks and is as "sly and cunning" as a sheet of drywall. Every policy plan he's put forth has been hamfisted (and given that both our people don't eat pork that's an even bigger problem than the phrasing seems!) and to the degree any of them have been successful it's because of competent technocrats in government and the government's massive resources, not him. What he is is a dude born into a rich family and, like usual, married someone another rich family. And this wild amount of resources available to him allows for the illusion of competency and thus people take him vaguely seriously despite being as qualified to be taken seriously as a high school freshman essay on gender.

    I'm not the person who neg repped you but will after posting this. Because anti-semitism is gross and anti-semitic conspiracy theories are tired and boring. I write this not as a Trump supporter because I am not, but instead as for nearly two decades since getting out of the military being an anti-apartheid activist who ran an Israeli anti-apartheid organization and who, in my scholarly and activist work, presented on Zionism as a form of racism and colonialism at the Durban Review Conference in Geneva (the UN conference on racism that followed the first Durban conference that took place in your hometown in 2001). If you're gonna use the term "Zionist" make it have something to do with actual Zionism. If you're just being anti-semitic then own it and just say "Jew". That way you can just sound bigoted instead of bigoted and silly.

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    Well I tried to neg rep but couldn't. Maybe it's the adblocker but the javascript won't pop up. Oh well. It's the thought that counts lol

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    Unfortunately most everything we do somehow lately can be seen as political, I post these as they do reflect scrap metal prices, I was hoping that the metal prices would go up but so far it has not. I don't mind others views or opinions at all. I did not vote for Hillary or trump I voted third party. Around the world this is gonna have a impact on scrap prices some will be better some will be worse.

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