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    found out today there is a law stopping scrap yards from buying CO2 (?) tanks

    I think they are the CO2 tanks - the big silver ones bars and restaurants use. Guy in front of me had one turned away they told him they dont accept them because it encourages young folks to steal them so there is a law by me regarding this. Interesting item, I'd never thought of that.



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    Not that I would, but I could think of better things to steal and they're not illegal. Funny how each state prioritizes the worth of items.
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    Are you sure it wasn't a Soda Keg? I think most states outlaw scraping kegs because so many of them were stolen and I believe they are techinally property of the brewery/soda bottler.

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    With reference to a keg belonging to the brewery, it doesn't. I scrapped one that i was given last month and had no problems. When you buy a keg of beer you put a deposit down that you get back if you bring the empty keg it back, if you don't than you basically bought the keg. the deposit is a lot more than the keg is worth as scrap for incentive to take it back since they refill them.

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    i know in jersey, a friend of mine used to steal kegs and scrap them. the yards took them, but they looked at him like a scumbag because they knew he stole them. the deposit is exactly for that reason, to encourage people to return them instead of keeping or selling them.

    he still tries to convince me to let him steal a few and take him to the yard. i have to remind him that those days are behind him, and i will not get involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    With reference to a keg belonging to the brewery, it doesn't. I scrapped one that i was given last month and had no problems. When you buy a keg of beer you put a deposit down that you get back if you bring the empty keg it back, if you don't than you basically bought the keg. the deposit is a lot more than the keg is worth as scrap for incentive to take it back since they refill them.

    The deposit is just to encourage people to bring them back and so the store doesn't loose as much if its not brought back. It isn't meant as payment for the keg. The store can come back to you and demand the keg back or the money to replace it, and keep your deposit for their troubles. The Keg is property of the store not the user.

    As for the CO2 tank, most yards around me wont accept any kind of compressed air tank like that for fear of an explosion when they shred it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    i know in jersey, a friend of mine used to steal kegs and scrap them. the yards took them, but they looked at him like a scumbag because they knew he stole them. the deposit is exactly for that reason, to encourage people to return them instead of keeping or selling them.

    he still tries to convince me to let him steal a few and take him to the yard. i have to remind him that those days are behind him, and i will not get involved.
    You might want to rethink calling him a friend if he is that big of a thief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne1956 View Post
    You might want to rethink calling him a friend if he is that big of a thief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjybjy View Post
    Are you sure it wasn't a Soda Keg? I think most states outlaw scraping kegs because so many of them were stolen and I believe they are techinally property of the brewery/soda bottler.
    that could be it - it was silver and had two holes for handles to carry.

    I just have this picture in my minds eye of some young kid walking into a bar, unhooking one of these things, tossing it on his shoulder and walking out without a care int he world when the yard owner said that :eek:

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    If I find kegs which is not often I take them back to the liquor store and I get the $30-35.....I've only found 3 though. They only weigh 25-30 lbs so i'd rather get the $30-35 and save myself the 12 mile trip to the yard and get 2x the $$.

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    the yards took them, but they looked at him like a scumbag because they knew he stole them.
    That's pretty funny. They were buying stolen property, and knew it, but they looked at somebody else as a scumbag?

    With reference to a keg belonging to the brewery, it doesn't. I scrapped one that i was given last month and had no problems. When you buy a keg of beer you put a deposit down that you get back if you bring the empty keg it back, if you don't than you basically bought the keg.
    Who's to say you didn't steal it from the guy that put down the deposit?

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    the yard i go to will accept propane tanks and suck as short steel or heavy steel if they are cut in half.
    I'm not sure about the legality of other tankls, but if they are legal to scrap the will take them cut

    Quote Originally Posted by CMHN View Post
    The deposit is just to encourage people to bring them back and so the store doesn't loose as much if its not brought back. It isn't meant as payment for the keg. The store can come back to you and demand the keg back or the money to replace it, and keep your deposit for their troubles. The Keg is property of the store not the user.

    As for the CO2 tank, most yards around me wont accept any kind of compressed air tank like that for fear of an explosion when they shred it.

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    Around here I can recycle any tank I want as long as I can get the valve out or drill a large hole in it, but kegs cannot be scrapped. It's rather hard to steal CO2 tanks as they are usually in the back of a restaurant, I think it'd probably be easier to steal the cash register...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    With reference to a keg belonging to the brewery, it doesn't. I scrapped one that i was given last month and had no problems. When you buy a keg of beer you put a deposit down that you get back if you bring the empty keg it back, if you don't than you basically bought the keg. the deposit is a lot more than the keg is worth as scrap for incentive to take it back since they refill them.
    I am calling shenanigans. This is like saying I put a deposit down on my apartment, now I own it.

    Read this article: Beer kegs become hot commodity for thieves - USATODAY.com

    It specifically says:

    Just a few years ago about 3% to 4% of brewer Sierra Nevada's kegs disappeared because of theft or other loss. Last year, the losses doubled, founder Ken Grossman says. The Chico, Calif.-based brewer owns approximately 180,000 kegs, and each costs $150 to replace.


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    Approximately 300,000 kegs were stolen at a loss of $50 million in 2007, estimates the Washington-based Beer Institute. Approximately 10% of the 625 million gallons of beer annually sold in the USA is in kegs, which are owned by brewers.

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    Just realized that Red posted that over a year ago. I bet he is hanging out with Andy Dufresne at Shawshank now after stealing kegs.

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    Don't know if its illegal; but, when I was asking Alter about what they accepted they said NOT kegs and microwaves (and others)

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    The processing facilities are who wnt accept a sealed cylinder, I've posted this before but those of you in good with your yard ask them about the sealed cylinders that people sneak in or just leave because they are not accepted. My yard gives them to me I cut tem in half and sell them back, today I got a Gaylord 3/4 full of aluminum fire extinguishers and medical oxygen tanks, trust me its pretty nice to get a pick up where you sell your scrap


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