olddude...I've been doing research for our association. Some days I get excited and some days I get overwhelmed. Most days it seems almost impossible for people from so many different places to do something like this. In my research it always seems like the groups were put together by a core group living in the same proximity. Not saying it's impossible...it's just going to take some real determination. BTW, I sent you a PM. Oh, as for thieves....I have a good relationship with my police chief and he knows I wouldn't steal and I called him once when I saw a carpenter putting old windows in the dumpster and he caught him. We have a big problem here with people stealing wiring from irrigation systems.