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I hate you Copper Market!!!!

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    I hate you Copper Market!!!!

    This volatility is killing me. Today I spent my whole day in meetings with my buyers who wanted to cut my pricing and my sellers who want to increase their pricing. I gave some serious thought to buying an Uzi and shooting them all.



    Really though, this has to stop soon, doesn't it????

    If you can't tell I have had a rough day. Now its time for a nice beer and a warm bed.
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    I have an AK47 with a 40 round clip will that help? When people speculate in any market volitility always follows. And with the ammount of speculation world wide in all markets I cant see anything settling down for some time. A strong constant rise in the gold market up to 2000 spread over the next 90 days would benice though.

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    Now its time for a nice beer and a warm bed
    Or a nice bed and a warm beer,,,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    Or a nice bed and a warm beer,,,,
    What are you British???

    I know all about the speculators and they would be on the top of my list even before my vendors. I just had a breaking point today and needed to vent. I figured this was as good a place as any because all you e scrapers have been having a rough time of it lately and would understand.

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    LMAO I have them days my self....the yards I buy from down here were...well lets say upset that the price was not the same from 3 weeks ago...as if they did not know GOLD DROPPED LIKE A ROCK....

    For both you and me...I hope the market goes stable.

    P.s gold market dropped $36.70 today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High Voltage Processing View Post
    This volatility is killing me. Today I spent my whole day in meetings with my buyers who wanted to cut my pricing and my sellers who want to increase their pricing. I gave some serious thought to buying an Uzi and shooting them all.

    Really though, this has to stop soon, doesn't it????

    If you can't tell I have had a rough day. Now its time for a nice beer and a warm bed.
    This is why, most go with multiple buyers.

    However, doesn't help to much, but sometimes it might.
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    I have three buyers and all must be on the phone with each other as they were within penny's of each other in price concessions.

    Oh well, if I wanted some stability and ease I would have bought a McDonalds franchise.

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    I just moved back to the States and I am glad to be part of the family here. Second Post.

    My life experiences are not in buying scrap from America. But from what my bosses tell me in China, they say that price and quality are not so important as profit.

    My bosses always say that they are more concerned with Chinese customs taxing the hell out of them than the prices of European or American scrap.

    They will only allow me to buy mixed metal as this is their best shot to get non-ferrous metals into China in a "hidden" way.

    I am looking to meet contacts for long-term relationships as 2012 will be a big year for China for importing goods. China Exports are not where the money is anymore. Domestic Economy is growing well.

    So, if you do buy an uzi you can use it then sell it as scrap maybe......... At least the used casings.

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    But from what my bosses tell me in China, they say that price and quality are not so important as profit.

    Big surprise there, I gotta tell ya. I just can't believe that china is not concerned with quality. I hope you see that contained within that sentence lies a big part of the problem.
    Btw, if you were the only buyer I had access to I'd quit scrappin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Voltage Processing View Post

    Oh well, if I wanted some stability and ease I would have bought a McDonalds franchise.
    Lol, I remember when hamburgers were a dime apiece. Buuuuuut....getting back to your OP, here's a cyber hug for you {{{HUGS}}} and I hope yu get it all straightened out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylinejackjr View Post

    Big surprise there, I gotta tell ya. I just can't believe that china is not concerned with quality. I hope you see that contained within that sentence lies a big part of the problem.
    Btw, if you were the only buyer I had access to I'd quit scrappin.
    A big part of what problem? Please do explain, Sir.

    Dont be so paranoid. Dont buy into the anti-china sentiment that seems to be so popular. if it was not China it would be India, or Brazil.

    You dont know how the Chinese Government works, let alone what kick-backs the Government offers the businesses that import or export certain goods. Educate yourself first before you take broad generaliztions at members here.

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    I'll tell ya what cr. I'm not gonna reply to your comment right now cause I'm tired n I'm hurtin in my back. It's been a hell of a long day. Hell, it's been a long week. But don't worry. You got the right one. I WILL reply later! Might even get put off the forum.

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    Last edited by Mick; 10-12-2011 at 05:08 PM. Reason: Added 2nd sentence at member's request.
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