Au wire

**High Voltage Processing** · 05-07-2012, 07:43 PM

This is not something I process because when you chop it the dust becomes an EPA nightmare but my new machines can do it and filter to government standards. I also have been getting some requests to take it. My problem is I really am out of my element here. What is this type of wire worth? Does anyone here deal in it?

**Otto** · 05-07-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by High Voltage Processing

This is not something I process because when you chop it the dust becomes an EPA nightmare but my new machines can do it and filter to government standards. I also have been getting some requests to take it. My problem is I really am out of my element here. What is this type of wire worth? Does anyone here deal in it?

Never heard of gold wire. I'm assuming this is an alloy you're handling. What would be the applications?

**High Voltage Processing** · 05-07-2012, 09:14 PM

Sorry not au. Aluminum. I'm typing on a tablet and sometimes don't catch the auto correct.

**miked** · 05-07-2012, 09:39 PM

Iron Mike's prices for for Al turnings are "mill price" $0.55 and "market price" $0.46. I choose turnings because in my mind that would be as close to what your product would be. Their listing for insulated AL is $0.44 for "mill price" and $0.35 for "market price" Mike.

**High Voltage Processing** · 05-07-2012, 10:10 PM

Does it make a difference if its higher recovery like it would in copper?

**sjones99** · 05-07-2012, 10:10 PM

Right now i get .47lb for acsr and more if there is no steel

**miked** · 05-07-2012, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by High Voltage Processing

Does it make a difference if its higher recovery like it would in copper?

I would assume it would but my small experience tells me only one price for insulated AL. Perhaps you found a hole in the market. Mike.

**ChampionRecyling** · 05-08-2012, 02:12 AM

Insulated al wire can come as acsr, acss or acc. Acsr and acss is generally for overhead power use. Acc wire is generally below ground use, bus connectors and jumpers. The steel core wire prevents stretching when strung. All use EC or enamel coated wire. EC, when clean is 99 pure al and is one of the purest al scrap available. It will pay as clean al in most yards and more in others. We currently pay between .50 and .60 cents for clean ec wire and .15 to .25 cents for acc and shred price for any steel wire. The inulated al wire is generally a 65% recovery.

**sjones99** · 05-08-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by ChampionRecyling

Insulated al wire can come as acsr, acss or acc. Acsr and acss is generally for overhead power use. Acc wire is generally below ground use, bus connectors and jumpers. The steel core wire prevents stretching when strung. All use EC or enamel coated wire. EC, when clean is 99 pure al and is one of the purest al scrap available. It will pay as clean al in most yards and more in others. We currently pay between .50 and .60 cents for clean ec wire and .15 to .25 cents for acc and shred price for any steel wire. The inulated al wire is generally a 65% recovery.

Wow talk about low prices...50 to 60 for clean ec?....i can get 50 for 67% recovery

**Mechanic688** · 05-08-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by sjones99

Wow talk about low prices...50 to 60 for clean ec?....i can get 50 for 67% recovery

Yes but your located in a different area, SO?

**sjones99** · 05-08-2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mechanic688

Yes but your located in a different area, SO?

All aluminum is based off the LME no matter where u are located thats the difference...i can see being a few cents apart but not 30 to 40

**ChampionRecyling** · 05-09-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by sjones99

All aluminum is based off the LME no matter where u are located thats the difference...i can see being a few cents apart but not 30 to 40

LME al has been hovering around .90 for a while and so to get .50 for insulated with 65% recovery is very unlikely. Also, .47 for steel core cable is crazy. I don't get numbers like that and I sell around 1500-2000 pounds a month of al wire. Let's keep it real. If you have 100 pounds of acc wire and you get .50 cents per pound, thats 50 bucks, and your buyer ends up with 65 pounds of ec wire. If your yard is able to get .82-.88 cents I would be surprised, but let's just say for fun that they get full LME, maybe they are exporting, I don't know; that's only 58.50 for your 65 pounds plus they have to strip it. Not enough margin for those kind of prices sorry. The numbers go negative with your steel core price.

**sjones99** · 05-09-2012, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by ChampionRecyling

LME al has been hovering around .90 for a while and so to get .50 for insulated with 65% recovery is very unlikely. Also, .47 for steel core cable is crazy. I don't get numbers like that and I sell around 1500-2000 pounds a month of al wire. Let's keep it real. If you have 100 pounds of acc wire and you get .50 cents per pound, thats 50 bucks, and your buyer ends up with 65 pounds of ec wire. If your yard is able to get .82-.88 cents I would be surprised, but let's just say for fun that they get full LME, maybe they are exporting, I don't know; that's only 58.50 for your 65 pounds plus they have to strip it. Not enough margin for those kind of prices sorry. The numbers go negative with your steel core price.

1500 to 2000 lbs is why your arent gettin top dollar...i move 10 to 20,000 lbs per month...one thing you are leaving out is the steel from the chops..at 35% they are worth .10 lb..

**High Voltage Processing** · 05-10-2012, 01:16 PM

So you are chopping steel? That has to play hell with your blades.

**sjones99** · 05-11-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by High Voltage Processing

So you are chopping steel? That has to play hell with your blades.

I`m not chopping the steel lol..they guys that do have the choppers are processing the wire and both the al and steel get chopped and then get seperated...not sure how often they change blades

**High Voltage Processing** · 05-11-2012, 09:22 PM

Could be a lot. I avoid steel like the plaque in my lines. Tears up the blades badly and smelters won't take it.

**miked** · 05-11-2012, 10:04 PM

I watched a video of a machine that un-twists the Al/steel cable after it was striped. The machine was being offered for sale by a company also selling stripping machines. It would be another step but seperation would be much quicker and the granulater could be eliminated from the process. Just chop the Al into convienant lengths. I can't find the video at this time.

Jim do you expect a lot of this material? Mike.