I was just about to ask about the TVs too. Don't leave us hanging!
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I was just about to ask about the TVs too. Don't leave us hanging!
Hopefully he answers back or we know the answer about picking up TV's in a bad area!
Well, if murder and robbery are illegal, and it still occurs, who commits the murders and robberies? Does anyone obey the law in Canada?... or is it just criminals who disobey the law? Any chance it would be the same people who commit murder and robberies who would not obey the law to turn in their guns? How do the people who have obeyed the law and turned in their guns protect themselves from those who don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
If you cannot fire a gun without "spraying bullets into the air and hitting everything," perhaps you should not have guns... At least without some guidance from someone familiar with the operation of firearms.
I'm going with "agree to disagree" on this one. There is no law to turn in guns because your not allowed to have them. Criminals will always find ways and new ways to get what they want, illegal or not, that's what makes them criminals. If you fire your rifle, whatever kind, once, and hit the target, that's skill. Holding the trigger and using multiple bullets and only hit the target half the time, I consider that asking for collateral damage. That's what video games are for.Quote:
Originally Posted by t00nces2
To sum it up, two countries with two different opinions. Still glad we can get along though..
I guess this is why, when we travel abroad, we Canucks are known to be peace love rock and roll
'nough said
Its not just Canadian subjects that believe in peace. Look at the Stats on this issue and see where the US sits on the # of murders per capita. We're not even in the top 100.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave
Junkfreak - Your statement created interest. This information is being provided, not to offend but to demonstrate some interesting statistics. According to Wikipedia, the U.S. has the 91 highest murder rate per capita in the world. Even more interesting was Canada was 89 on the list with a slightly higher number. Now things get real interesting, the top 56 countries on the list were in Africa. So a quick search of homicide types in South Africa was done. In 2007 it had 83,000 homicides. Of those only 8,319 were by firearm. Wish I had time to research further, but this proves to me I live in the right place at the right time.
We’re more peaceful: This year, Canada was ranked the eighth most peaceful country in the world. The U.S is ranked 100th.Quote:
Originally Posted by junkfreak
99 reasons why it
Also look at number 81 and 85 and 86 on the list
This is just conversation, not intended to offend anyone.
I stand corrected. Info said 111, not sure what year tho. Still looks like banning guns does nothing as far as violence goes .Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot76
OK your more peaceful you win. This was a good theard. Oh well just go talk to my grandchildren now. At least there is no competition with who's better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave
But look at the difference. Its not much and Canada has banned guns.
But where do England, France, Germany rank on that list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot76
I've been avoiding asking this, but, where do the black market guns in Canada come from?
Gun control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sorry my Canadian friends...I couldn't resist.
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You know I got nothing but love for you crazy canucks...your beer on the other hand...
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Sirscrapalot - Starting a war with Canada, a war of hugs!
Awwhh, our beer doesn't have enough water in it for you? Try the lite stuff, might taste more like home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot
They're not banned, just not as readily available. Except semi and fully automatic, those are military/SWAT only, so far as I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by junkfreak
And in case you were wondering how those murders happened...
Homicides by method
If you can buy it in a 30 pack it is not beer!Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
AA - (short for ammo anonymous) Just had to add to the humor.
This is the web site the information was quoted from: List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The UK is 176, France 194, and Germany 195. It is interesting, the list is almost in order by geographic location. Africa is together, Middle East, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, North America, etc.
As far as where your black market guns are coming from I'll go out on a limb and say "criminals." Not from one country, but the world market.
By the way, your beer is great. I have made many fishing trips and love the beer. Problem is the price you have to pay. At the web site 91 reasons, referenced above it was noted that Canada had a slightly lower alcohol consumption rate than the U.S. Shall we start a thread about the affect higher taxes has on consumption. Just kidding, but I think if we did the research on alcohol consumption by capita, it will be by geographic location just as the homicide chart was.
Sorry when I asked that I had already checked and knew where UK, France and Germany were. I was just trying to make the point that other industrialized nations with similar laws to Canada were far lower on the list, or higher in number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot76
And I'll drink any beer, just about. Haven't found one I didn't like, unless there's fruit added to it. FREE still has to be my fave brand.
Edit: Just found this, it says that 1/2 of black market guns in Canada come from...Mericans!
http://guncontrol.ca/wp-content/uplo...legallegal.pdf
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Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
I hear that, the other day I had a beer from Beau's brewery, Vankleek Hill, yet another local microbrewery, it had coffee added to it!
If I want coffee, I'll have a coffee!
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Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot
Here you go then!
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A couple things to add: I think a driving factors in violence is education and the civil obedience of a community or for that matter a entire country. In this country there is staggering individual difference in violent crime statistics, some regions much more likely than others. There is known difference within our own individual communities. That is exactly what the OP of this thread was implying to start with. Personally I have known that education is the answer to most of all problems.
As for Canadian and American relations, I don't think there is a better example anywhere in the world, of two countries being good neighbors! It is known as the most peaceful boarder in the history of mankind! Lets be honest, they make a better beer up north!
Europeans are more peaceful, for many reasons, I think they maybe a little tired of killing each other. Look at their history it is full of revolt, revolutions, civil wars, and all out war!
One only has to look to our neighbors to the south of us and their problems. From the very start of European colonization, their weapons were taken from them. Education was for the chosen few and exploitation was on! Mexico as a example is beautiful place, with very hard working people. Yet they have not advanced as civilization, not as a government and nor as people, very little when comparing their history to others around the world. Gun ownership is illegal for citizens and education is still very limited.
To my Canadian friends, thank you for being such a good neighbor and for making a good beer!
Canadian bacon , is better than ours but as for the beer I beg to differ.
Yea I pick up the tv's it was amazing I gave good customer service
The only ingredient in beer should be beer. SirS, I don't know if anyone else has said that. But I just did.
Yea it was cool
How about a little more info. As you can see there were a lot of opinions about your situation and your solution would be very helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by greyrd
And to Sir, Super Dave through out the first volley of hugs. Cannot wait to see your response.
Bacon is bacon. Beer is beer (unless you ruin it with fruit, coffee, or some other weird ingredient). I actually prefer strip bacon. I know, how un-Canadian of me.
Be careful. Before you know it that gun you pull could get you killed, or you killing someone over 2 tv's. Carry a method of self defense but don't go looking to kill someone. People don't call people looking to get them to their location so they can fight them. Basically you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning. Its not that big of a deal maybe bring a more subtle weapon to assert your safety such as a small knife clipped on your wasteband or maybe a less obvious like a 2x4 in your truck. If it looks bad don't go, its not worth someones life to pick up a tv.
I consume both in mass quantities not matter where its from.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
There are as many perspectives as there are people.
Before I return fire..(Hate to disapoint my good buddy there Patriot ;) )...
To you crazy canucks...I prefer good beer. So that leaves out most mass produced beers in the US. ;) I do drink them, but I do have standards when it comes to buying. Plus..I prefer a good whiskey or Tequila. An yes..beer should be..BEER. If I want fruity drinks I'll go mix one, or make some kool-aid. lol.
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Rapid fire hugs incoming!
Sirscrapalot - Huggers gonna hug.
Lmao at y'all but it was cool I show up on time I pick up the tv's we talk a lil bit I past out my card and left but I still don't trust nobody I had my 38 on the whole time
This is factually not true. More than 75% of the guns since 1984 used in mass shooting have been LEGALLY obtained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot76
Weapons and mass shootings - The Washington Post
As far as I'm concerned gun control has happened. Once you limit any part of the 2nd amendment (limiting felons from owning guns) your "slope is soaped".
Eric
My apologies for inaccurate information. My source had a little different perspective that said the weapons were not owned by the shooter. I assumed they were stolen.
So what happens to someone who had a gun when the "not allowed to have guns" law was written? I am happy to agree to disagree. The problem is that you and those who agree with the position you take want to take the guns. I am not for writing a law that forces you to own and carry guns, but you seem to be okay enforcing your desire by taking away guns by force of law. The left does not seem to be happy to live and let live, they (you) feel compelled to make everyone live as you want them to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
I don't have any stats but I would bet that Canadian Beer/Whiskey has killed more Canadians then Black Market American Guns has.
No doubt, but you know the reply will be, "American cars have killed way more Canadians than Canadian cars have!"Quote:
Originally Posted by KzScrapper
Lol never been to Canadian and do wanna go to busy networking
amen brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by KzScrapper
I'd go with the folks that said have these guys leave the tvs on the curb. Save you some work anyway. But then again is less than $10 of scrap worth such a sketchy situation??
Admiral Alum- Yo're a cool dude and I like you but there are some differences between the U.S. and Canada. We have about 320 million citizens, aliens, and illegal aliens here and Canada has how many, 30 million?? The media filters crap. Seldom hear about the vast majority of honest law abiding people are doing, only the miniscule percentage of losers (usually). I own (now with one of my sons) about 15 guns and have never had to pull one on someone. I have a CC permit but rarely carry. During the winter, I usually had a .22 pistol in my car when I'm trapping. Even with my CC permit, for some places I go (won't go into details here) that would cause all kinds of wringing of hands or the SWAT team showing up. But it stays in my car and no one knows about it except me. My U.S. and state rights don't cease just because I crossed some imaginary line. If there's ever a day when I roll into a C-store parking lot after goose hunting with my 12 gauge and armed thugs are making their get away after a robbery, then they might be in for a surprise...