New to the forum but not the business

[Proton]

I am not your son.

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[JJinLV]

Hey there folks. New to the forum but not the business. Looking for help with the sale of catalytic converters and to acquire general knowledge to help open a new revenue source. We have dealt with the regular buyers that make their rounds around the area and have run into quite a bit of issues with honesty, etc. We would like to sell direct or at the very least sell in bulk and receive a fair price for the cats we have. We have pics of all of our cats and would love to be able to sell all at once 3-4X a year. If you are a buyer and are willing to give us quotes on our cats you go straight to the front of the line. Thanks!

APA is one of the registered buyers on this forum and you can see his thread for reviews of his service, pricing and expertise. My own experiences with him have been nothing but stellar. Additionally, if you search the forum archives you'll find a lot of threads with various information and experiences with converters. The old threads in general are worth reading and will help you maximize your profit and efficiency when dealing with any scrap. Welcome to the forum and I look forward to see how your converter project goes!

[APA]

Thank you you for the kind words. It was good to deal with you. I hope business is going great for you out in Nevada.

APA is one of the registered buyers on this forum and you can see his thread for reviews of his service, pricing and expertise. My own experiences with him have been nothing but stellar. Additionally, if you search the forum archives you'll find a lot of threads with various information and experiences with converters. The old threads in general are worth reading and will help you maximize your profit and efficiency when dealing with any scrap. Welcome to the forum and I look forward to see how your converter project goes!

[Sirscrapalot]

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I've never done business with APA, as my wife would get upset if I sold the cats. From my time on the forum though he's always been quite helpful an willing to help. Plus if he was a bad buyer...it'd show on his thread. We don't really keep quiet on here when it comes to bad experiences, regardless of who the buyers is or how long they've been here.

Good luck to the op an everyone else in the thread.

Fight to stay cool, not each other. Nobody wins my friends.

Sirscrapalot - Rolling rolling rolling...gone.

[Snowman18]

Lets see you cut that Chrysler foil converter open and weigh the foil. Pre converters average less than a lb and aftermarkets average around a lb.

You said you deal direct with no middleman. Then you said you deal with a broker. A broker has to be a middleman to make a profit to be in business.

I love foil converters, these can be sheared into bits then tumbled to remove the precious metals. The only chemical used is water for dust control and rinsing.

The precious metals settle out as a fine powder and soon settles out from the water as a cement, roast the cement at a high temperature for a few hours to burn off the carbon.

The remaining foil scraps are stainless.

[Snowman18]

Stillwater does not buy from the public or “most buyers”.

“Metallix buys nothing less than 2,000 lbs” but bought your 1,000 lbs. Which is it? Contradicting statements.

Rhodium averages only 5% of the content of the PGM. Palladium and Platinum are the other 95% with Palladium averaging over 50%.

This yard owner’s cats were worth 3 times more than yours? Sounds very strange.. The converter from a city an hour away has virtually the same PGM content as a converter from a more rural area.

If you want to cut open 1,000 cats (2,000 lbs), ship to Metallix, and wait 45 days for your money hoping the market isn’t down, try it out. Metallix knows nothing about individual converters and values to assist you so basically you are on your own. Metallix also will not send you a sample from your assay.....kind of strange.......

Why would they send you a sample, that would have been your duty before sending in the load. Mettalix is only obligated to give you the assay report.

Next time either send a referee to oversee your shipment or hire one.

[Kalvlin]

I can attest to APA as being fair, honest and knowing his business . I do a very small amount of cats from time to time and I send him pictures- he sends me a quote. Once I sent him a converter that was missing some honeycomb ( unbeknownst to me ) but he still honored his quote for the lot. I'd say that was pretty darn nice of him. And yes, he is in business to make a profit . That's called Capitalism. Love it or leave it.

[Snowman18]

Lets see you cut that Chrysler foil converter open and weigh the foil. Pre converters average less than a lb and aftermarkets average around a lb.

You said you deal direct with no middleman. Then you said you deal with a broker. A broker has to be a middleman to make a profit to be in business.

Here's how I deal with foils.

[APA]

The refinery I deal with now gives me my assay sample every batch.

The Metallix salesman told me some story about their “5 sample assay process” by their “5 chemists”. I said “hey could you mail me a sample of my material?” The salesman replies “No! It’s contaminated once it leaves our door!”

I do not have the capability to accurately take an unbiased sample of my batches and yes Metallix is not required to send me an assay sample.

I asked Metallix if I could personally oversee my batches and sampling; I was told “we can’t allow you to do that at our facility.”

Why would they send you a sample, that would have been your duty before sending in the load. Mettalix is only obligated to give you the assay report.

Next time either send a referee to oversee your shipment or hire one.

[Snowman18]

The refinery I deal with now gives me my assay sample every batch.

The Metallix salesman told me some story about their “5 sample assay process” by their “5 chemists”. I said “hey could you mail me a sample of my material?” The salesman replies “No! It’s contaminated once it leaves our door!”

I do not have the capability to accurately take an unbiased sample of my batches and yes Metallix is not required to send me an assay sample.

I asked Metallix if I could personally oversee my batches and sampling; I was told “we can’t allow you to do that at our facility.”

Then your doing the right thing by removing your patronage and moving over to a another company that is willing to service your needs.

As we both know from experience a dishonest company can bankrupt you.