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    Texas moves to require R2, e-Stewards certification

    This does NOT look like a good trend starting! I just got this in a newsletter.

    Texas may soon require all processors in its state electronics recycling program to have a third-party certification.

    House Bill 3465 would require all e-scrap processors registered under the state program to be either R2 or e-Stewards certified. The bill passed unanimously out of the House Committee on Environmental Regulation and will likely be scheduled for a full vote of the House soon, according to Texas Campaign for the Environment.

    "This is an important step towards making sure that the laws we passed on e-waste recycling actually promote recycling, not dumping," said Robin Schneider, TCE executive director. "Electronic waste is too hazardous and too valuable to leave to fly-by-night operators. This bill ensures a certain level of professionalism prevails in our e-cycling sector here in Texas."


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    how about if instead of this bill I volunteer to move here and pick up everything cause if people are just tossing computers and electronics on the sides of the road I will travel all day long picking up money lol theres a lot of miles to travel in texas but it would keep me busy and happy in the sun shine lol


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    As a reseller, I am not a fan of R2 certifications. While I work with many R2-certified companies, and make good money doing so, there are also many R2-certified companies who feel they cannot resell their equipment at all, effectively increasing waste generated by keeping reusable materials from being remarketed. This is due to fear of breaking compliance with the certifying body. In my humble opinion, reuse is the greenest form of recycling possible, so it really bothers me that enormous amounts of valuable goods are being kept in the shred pile due to clerical uncertainty.

    I, for one, sincerely hope this bill does not pass - especially in Texas, where so many recycling companies thrive.

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    As usual, its about money. What big computer company is located in Texas? Dell. Robin Schneider, the TCE director, was largely involved with getting Dell's "reconnect" take back program started. Pretty interesting stuff.

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    Texas may soon require all processors in its state electronics recycling program to have a third-party certification.
    Does that mean if your buyer is certified then your covered under their cert. ??
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    Do you have to be a member of the state recycling program to legally recycle electronics? Here in Alberta, there is a province-wide recycling program also, but you don't have to be a member to do any electronics recycling. Here, if not a member of the program, it just means you don't get any of the govt. subsidies.

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    Uh doesn't Texas already have hazardes waste dumping laws?

    THEY WILL pass the bill, WE will pay for it and,suffer the unintended consequences.
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    In California, there is a distinction between recyclers and collectors. Collectors provide the recyclers with material to break down into various parts and components. I believe it states that collectors can remove things such as batteries and ink cartridges. I do not know if this applies to computer components or not, but basically removing something not normally done by the consumer is left to the recyclers.

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    To the OP, what newsletter did you get this out of? Not questioning you or anything, just could use a little more reading material keeping me up-to-date so I'd like to be on their mailing list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burrage1 View Post
    To the OP, what newsletter did you get this out of? Not questioning you or anything, just could use a little more reading material keeping me up-to-date so I'd like to be on their mailing list.
    You could go here: Texas Legislature Online - 83(R) Bill Stages for HB 3465

    Unless I'm reading this wrong, it's only talking about recyclers of televisions.

    83(R) HB 3465 - Introduced version - Bill Text

    83R12426 JRR-D

    By: Bohac H.B. No. 3465


    A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
    AN ACT
    relating to standards for recycling or reusing computer and
    television equipment.
    BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
    SECTION 1. Section 361.964(b), Health and Safety Code, is
    amended to read as follows:
    (b) For the purposes of recycling, reusing, or otherwise
    disposing of collected computer equipment, a manufacturer must:
    (1) follow the standards established under
    "Responsible Recycling Practices for Use in Accredited
    Certification Programs for Electronic Recyclers" or "e-Stewards
    Standard for Responsible Recycling and Reuse of Electronic
    Equipment" or an equivalent independently audited certification
    standard for electronics recycling; or
    (2) use a recycler that has a current certification
    indicating the recycler complies with the standards described by
    Subdivision (1) [The commission shall adopt as standards for
    recycling or reuse of computer equipment in this state the
    standards provided by "Electronics Recycling Operating Practices"
    as approved by the board of directors of the Institute of Scrap
    Recycling Industries, Inc., April 25, 2006, or other standards from
    a comparable nationally recognized organization].
    SECTION 2. Section 361.982(b), Health and Safety Code, is
    amended to read as follows:
    (b) A person who is engaged in the business of recycling
    covered television equipment in this state shall:

    (1) register with the commission and certify that the
    person is in compliance with the standards described by [adopted
    under] Section 361.990;
    (2) on or before January 31 of each year renew the
    registration with the commission and certify the person's continued
    compliance with the standards described by [adopted under] Section
    361.990;
    (3) recycle all covered television equipment accepted
    for recycling in accordance with the standards adopted under
    Section 361.990;
    (4) maintain a written log recording the weight of all
    covered television equipment received by the person and the
    disposition of that equipment; and
    (5) annually report to the commission the total weight
    of covered television equipment received and recycled by the person
    in the preceding 12 months.
    SECTION 3. Section 361.990(b), Health and Safety Code, is
    amended to read as follows:
    (b) For the purposes of recycling, reusing, or otherwise
    disposing of collected covered television equipment, a
    manufacturer must:
    (1) follow the standards established under
    "Responsible Recycling Practices for Use in Accredited
    Certification Programs for Electronic Recyclers" or "e-Stewards
    Standard for Responsible Recycling and Reuse of Electronic
    Equipment" or an equivalent independently audited certification
    standard for electronics recycling; or
    (2) use a recycler that has a current certification
    indicating the recycler complies with the standards described by
    Subdivision (1) [The commission shall adopt as standards for
    recycling or reuse of covered television equipment in this state
    the standards provided by "Electronics Recycling Operating
    Practices" as approved by the board of directors of the Institute of
    Scrap Recycling Industries, Incorporated, April 25, 2006, or other
    standards from a comparable nationally recognized organization].
    SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
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    So... bottom line, it'll get more expensive to recycle your old CRTs in Texas legally, and yokes & degaussing cables could well require a license to cash in.

    So the end result will be more people 'accidentally' losing them off the back of their truck on country dirt roads.

    Ahh, the lovely unintended consequences of kneejerk legislation...

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    You can see from auminer's post that their are 2 sections to the current law:
    Section 361.964, which covers computer equipment, and
    Section 361.990 which covers television equipment.

    Both sections are nearly identical except one says computers and the other says televisions. Naturally, the new bill alters both to require R2 or e-stewards certs.
    The bill hasn't passed yet, and it may not have time to get anywhere.


    General info for other Texas peeps: The beginning of the laws about electronic recycling in the Texas Health and Safety code starts with "Sec. 361.951."
    Last edited by learning more; 05-13-2013 at 01:05 AM. Reason: More info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learning more View Post
    Section 361.964, which covers computer equipment, and
    That section only states that a manufacturer must do certain tings. I'm no manufacturer... quite the opposite!

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    There is a definition of manufacturer, or something that says it applies to x,y,and z types of business in there somewhere I saw it earlier, I'll have to find it again.

    ...
    Got it

    Sec. 361.959. ENFORCEMENT
    (b) The commission and the attorney general, as appropriate, shall enforce this subchapter and, except as provided by Subsections (d) and (e), take enforcement action against any manufacturer, retailer, or person who recycles or reuses computer equipment for failure to comply with this subchapter.
    Last edited by learning more; 05-13-2013 at 01:13 AM. Reason: found it

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    One day I think we will just 'rent' stuff.

    Like I want a washing machine, so I go to the store & see what I want & 'buy' it. Its got a 5 year guarantee & if it works for longer than that, Good.
    If it breaks within the 5 years, I call them up & they come & fix it, or replace it.

    If it breaks after the 5 years, I call them & they come & pick it up & I go & buy a brand new one again.

    The point is, is that 'They own it' as a physical object & during the time I use it, they still own it. I have just been paying for the use of it.

    How they make it work for 5 years & what they do with it afterwards is their problem.

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    Nope. That's still applicable only to recyclers selected by manufacturers.

    Texas Health and Safety Code Section 361.954 - Applicability - 2011

    ...a) The collection, recycling, and reuse provisions of this subchapter apply to computer equipment used and returned to the manufacturer by a consumer in this state and do not impose any obligation on an owner or operator of a solid waste facility....

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    Quote Originally Posted by auminer View Post
    Nope. That's still applicable only to recyclers selected by manufacturers.
    Ok, I might give you that one.
    It's kind of weird that they specifically say in the enforcement part "person who recycles or reuses computer equipment", but not in the applicability part.

    Keep in mind I'm no lawyer, and I've spent less than few hours reading these laws.

    I guess the big point is that if this passes, the big players, if they aren't already, must become certified. As more companies get certs the pressure will move down to the smaller players to get certs in order to keep their existing volume. As mentioned earlier, it results in more money for the cert orgs and less money for us.

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    I've been digging, but haven't yet found a smoking gun... but whatcha wanna bet that there's some kickback business going on here?

    Here's what I mean, and bear in mind I HAVE NOT FOUND DIRECT EVIDENCE OF THIS, but this is my suspicion: Scrap metal trade group makes up this really spiffy set of guidelines & for a price, A STEEP PRICE, will 'certify' you as being compliant with these guidelines (which aren't easily found online until you buy a kit from them) then, this trade group (read:PAC) makes campaign donation to state legislator. State legislator introduces a bill requiring people to be compliant with the above mentioned guidelines or face fines.

    So... in order to continue to make a living, you have to pay some trade group a couple of thousand dollars for them to wave their magic wand over you & tell you to pretty much carry on as you've already been doing.

    THAT's how you make money off of scrapping.

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    Auminer, you are on the right track. This is one reason you see big price differences across buyers. Ewasted, for example buys silver RAM at a slightly lower price than gold RAM. Most other buyers pay 4 or 5.00 per pound. I think there is a bit of price fixing going on with some R2 certified companies(obviously not Ewasted). Example: Company A is R2 certified and can only sell to selected prefered downstream recyclers to maintain certification. Company B knows this, so they pay less. Company A can't sell to Company C because they are not a prefered downstream recycler.

    This is all speculation of course, and I might not have any idea of what I am talking about.

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    Auminer... Sounds about right!


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