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I live in ontario too and would dearly love to own my own rolloff truck. It turns out the government paperwork is worth more than the truck.........every year



bummer

just need chimerical insurance, commercial license plate (they put a sticker on it) and CVOR sticker on your window, and the yearly safty that comes with it. those yellow cvor stickers are cop and MTO and environment officer magnets. i used to be a road crew foremen with an advertising company never been pulled over more in my life. I was almost thinking it was because i had to drive a ford, if i was a cop I'd harass Ford owners too. road side safty check every time. plus a couple bucks a month for a CVOR log book. that's what I'm looking at here soon for my truck. i really don't want to do it because its a huge expense but its part the business. trailer gets a yellow sticker as well. and a safety yearly.

i added you as a friend trying to save everyone local

Originally Posted by cummins

just need chimerical insurance, commercial license plate (they put a sticker on it) and CVOR sticker on your window, and the yearly safty that comes with it. those yellow cvor stickers are cop and MTO and environment officer magnets. i used to be a road crew foremen with an advertising company never been pulled over more in my life. I was almost thinking it was because i had to drive a ford, if i was a cop I'd harass Ford owners too. road side safty check every time. plus a couple bucks a month for a CVOR log book. that's what I'm looking at here soon for my truck. i really don't want to do it because its a huge expense but its part the business. trailer gets a yellow sticker as well. and a safety yearly.

I am so very glad you brought this up Cummins! Turns out I was pulled over yesterday by the MTO and did not have my CVOR sticker on the trailer or truck. TOTALLY oblivious to what that is, still trying to figure it out. Anyway was pulled over with my truck and trailer, my rig is all good, just got out of the shop 3 months ago and 600$ later, totally legit(thought so). I was very polite and courteous with the officer, he made me turn on the flashers, checked to see if my wipers worked..like I said good truck, clean, new paint job, mechanically sound new straps and well strapped diddo on the trailer...My trailer is a 16 ft dovetail tilt and load...the truck was empty just the trailer loaded. He pulls out the scales and weighs my truck and trailer tires individually and comes back(after finding nothing wrong with the rig) and blows be away with his numbers. Says my truck and trailer weigh 8000kgs, I did not believe that but remained polite and courteous. After waiting like 1 1/2 - 2hours comes back and says he could give me fines up to like 1000$!! Says he is cutting me a break and only have to pay 125$! and says that is bare minimum fine for me.
Anyway comes back with a commercial vehicle inspection report. Says this : 361-fail to surrender completed trip report. 391 - no cvor registration. 412 - exceed registered gross wt by 1350 kg hauling scrap metal. no evidence of annual inspection on truck or trailer.
WHAT?
Told him this is my wife's truck and trailer(keep everything in her name) and that old dune buggy with no motor is my Dad's long lost project, that's my old washer and dryer, and a steel tank that looks a lot heavier that it really is. Trying to justify that it is a personal vehicle, just taking in some scrap.

Turns out when I got to the yard I only weighed in at 10,860 lbs!! I am rated for 12,500lbs anyway his numbers were bullsh&T he could not find anything wrong with my rig.
Only had 2040lb of scrap!!! and scrap was down that day only got 155$

My question to you cummins is when and where does a vehicle become commercial from personal and how can they prove that is or is not? I mean why would I want to become commercial taking in the ODD load here and there, they allowed us to plate it no word of cvor or anything associated with it. Log book? are you serious? totally peeved.

How can they justify that I an a commercial operation? very grey area if you ask me.

i see alot of tow trucks around that say Not for Hire, guess its for insurance. if your only buying and selling cars you need a way to haul them. if you own what your hauling the insurance would be alot less.

Before mega trucking companies took over the industry and mega regulations took over the roadways, most trucks were driven by owner-operators who would actively seek loads, and those needing loads delivered would actively seek a trucker. As trucking companies began to emerge, they didn't want their trucks being used by a company driver to deliver loads on the sly, and began putting "not for hire" on the door of their trucks
What it actually means today seems to be anybodies guess

I have noticed around here lately a lot of the private trucks will have a sign says " Not For Hire" I dont know if this is to just keep people from asking,or maybe discourage the highway patrol from bothering them

Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY

These are trucks owned by the company that are not dependent on the revenue from the business conducted by the company.

How can this be possible VOG? How can a company own a truck who's operation is not dependent on revenue being made by the company?

Originally Posted by volvoscrapper

The person you spoke with sounds like they moonlight for the New Jersey State government.

But you have two big advantages in Ontario: First, they actually answer the phone. Trenton doesn't answer the phone. Second, you have Timbits!

Who do you think makes up these laws and money sucking businesses in Jersey? Friend of the state and state workers with connections.

Trenton is of no help unless you know somebody

Lived here my whole life and I know how this state works. Separate you from your money.

Welcome to NJ, hurry up and wait.

Sounds like a scam