still think they are nuts ?

all those survival/prepper nutz who stocked thousands of rounds of ammo don't sound so crazy now do they.

The constitution bars the military from action within or against American citizens.

It doesn't bar a "civilian force from doing so.

How ever listen to these words carefully. "I will fundamentally transform America."

"We need a "civilian" force just as large, just as well funded and just as strong as the military."



Those forces are called "Homeland security" FEMA, and TSA. who just a month or so ago bought 1.6 BILLION ROUNDS OF 40 CAL HOLLOW POINT AMMO.

we now have, in Florida ,home land security "viper" units setting up stop and frisk/search in full swat gear on the highways.

last week one of these "viper"teams stopped 2 women and preformed FULL body cavity searched on them, on the side of the highway.

this is not political or necessarily anti Obama. home land security, the patriot act . and the "war on drugs were all started by the other side.

it is no linger about conservative or liberal, or Democrat and Republican.

the quotes are from president Obama,

the purchase of ammo by HLS is from ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, CNN, and about every one else,

the Patriot Act, HLS, are courtesy of G HW Bush, fema Im not sure of.

article 10 a and b of the military funding act which, allows the no warrant break in of civilian homes and property, and the arrest of civilians, and imprisonment of them with out charge is courtesy of the congress 2011, voted in by 90 something congress persons DEmo and Repub.

the cavity search info is on the news all over FL.

these are not crazy conspy theory , they stopped becoming theories when they were passed into law.

ill try to find the link for ya.

for those that don't know .40 cal hollow points are not used for practice, they are designed to do one of 2 things kill or do as much internal damage as possible. they are strictly a close in ammo, not designed to repel an invasion of a country, but are very good when invading a single home or business.

I'm afraid olddude is right. They're not stockpiling ammunition, ordering boxcars with shackles, and hiring thousands of agents for the different agencies, so we can all sit around the campfire and sing Kum Ba Yah.

thanks for doing the research for me guys. I was gonna look later, had to go out and tear down 20 switches and and get the MB from 2 servers. wore me out but it felt good to be able to do it. Also put together half of the new Craftsman band saw I bought the other day.

Not bad for an old cripple guy i 1 1/2 hr. but I'm done for today }:< {)

I concur with the above just don't post mcxh about it any more it does create some argument and makes the adm nervous. the first amendment doesn't apply here, this is a private forum.

I would like to see a political section sense politics (laws and regulation) directly affects all our lively hoods. that way those who don't want to hear it don't have to go there, but I also see the Adm side of the issue.

Originally Posted by Bear

I think yall must listen to an awful lot of underground radio ; )

Hey Bear! I think this is the first time you and I have DISagreed on anything! ;-)

I don't listen to any underground radio. dont listen to Limbaugh. I take Hannety with a grain of salt, and consider him a rep shill. I have lived 70 years and I see the difference between then and now, most particularly the last 40 years or so.

I am an amateur student of history who fully realizes History is written by the winners so I seek out both sides when I can.

I understand gun banners point of view, but the fact is if you banned all guns tomarrow there would still be 350, 000,000 of then out there.

in the founding days protecting life and property was a given, and never entered the minds of the founders, what they were clearly referring to in the second amendment was the best weapon of the day( if you could afford a canon or a mortor or rockets you could own them. most of the weaponry of the revolution were in fact owned by private citizens.

the second amendment was written specifically to protect the citizens from ta eventual Tyrannical government.