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    Ebay and Taxes

    My wife and I was talking, and she brought up a good point, so I wanted to see what the rest of you who sell actively on ebay.com do.

    When it comes to Ebay earnings and taxes, do you calculate that into your taxes when you file each year, as part of your income/business income, or not?

    I mainly do it, to get more out of the stuff I find, then just scrapping it, and use it for extra spending money.

    Doesn't really go to the business per say.

    Just wanted to see what you guys do with it.
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    I believe this year is the year eBay starts sending out 1099's. Can't swear to that, though.
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    ebay sent out 1099's at the end of 2011 also. Dont worry about it unless you sell over 200 items and receive more than $10,000 thru paypal payments. If you meet those criteria you will get the 1099. I file it as a business, that way i can claim cost of goods and overhead against it.
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    First off its not ebay that will send you the 1099. Its paypal. Second off its $20000 and 200 transactions that trigger paypal sending you the 1099. Here is the link with all the info. https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/ma...ng_us/IRS6050W


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    I believe Uncle Sam's belief is you are supposed to pay taxes on all income
    even if not documented with a 1099 or W2

    And I find the income is a basis to offset expenses
    Internet, the 2nd & 3rd phone lines, % use of the home as the office
    which allows the same % deduction of home expenses >> Electric, heat, taxes, snow plowing, grass cutting and so and so and so

    Last year the IRS was not set up for the PayPal 1099 so you just entered the amount in other income

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    I am reporting about a 5% profit after everything is taken out. Rent is not cheap.

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    Interesting they have such a high threshold. I believe anything over 600 bucks triggers a 1099 in the course of normal business.

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    thanks everyone for your input. I decided I will add it to my business taxes.

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    George...How many businesses have you bought and sold and you still don't know what income is whether it be gross or net?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KZBell View Post
    George...How many businesses have you bought and sold and you still don't know what income is whether it be gross or net?
    that is not what I was getting at. I was simply asking if anyone else treated it as taxable income and claimed it on their taxes or if they decided not to.

    some people just sell on the side and use it as spending money, where others are hard core and really make it part of their business.

    I personally claim everything and document every expense.

    only stuff I don't claim is gifts, inheritances, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    that is not what I was getting at. I was simply asking if anyone else treated it as taxable income and claimed it on their taxes or if they decided not to.

    some people just sell on the side and use it as spending money, where others are hard core and really make it part of their business.

    I personally claim everything and document every expense.

    only stuff I don't claim is gifts, inheritances, etc
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    You don't see big business doing that, they hide every dime they can,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    You don't see big business doing that, they hide every dime they can,
    True, but unlike them, I don't feel like heading to prison for tax fraud either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    True, but unlike them, I don't feel like heading to prison for tax fraud either.
    Then I would pay the taxes on ALL the income you generate in order to put your mind at ease.

    If you say you claim "everything"....like you did above....then this is part of "everything"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    First off its not ebay that will send you the 1099. Its paypal. https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/ma...ng_us/IRS6050W
    Hi PTS, technically, it IS eBay since they are now the parent company of PayPal after buying it in '02. That's when they started the push for you to use PayPal to receive payment for your auction items. It wasn't long before you couldn't uncheck the PayPal box in your listing. No wonder with the nice fee that comes to them (if I remember correctly 4.5% back then).

    George.....I do report my PayPal transers into my bank account. I've got eBay fees set up to be paid out of PayPal balance so that expense is already taken out before tax time.

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    Your right got me on a technicality. Ebay does own paypal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pnutfarmer View Post
    I've got eBay fees set up to be paid out of PayPal balance so that expense is already taken out before tax time.
    Not sure if you mean you report that to or not. If not, you should, as that is a tax write off for your business.

    Any expense, (gas, tools, equipment, paying customers, etc) is all taxable write offs. Going to lunch, even to MCd's is a tax write off.

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    Your not selling to either paypal or ebay. you are selling to the buyer of your product. Shouldnt get a 1099 until your fee's hit $600

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    hmmmm... paypal says this,

    "Will I be affected by the 2011 tax changes if I only meet one of the thresholds?

    No. A seller has to exceed both IRS thresholds ($20,000 in gross payment volume and 200 separate payments) in a calendar year before a Form 1099-K is required. We may require that you provide a tax identification number before you reach these thresholds however we will only report your payments if you exceed both thresholds."

    so it would appear you have to have over $20,000 gross AND 200 separate payments. I was worried! I would hit the 200 payments, but am faaaaaar from the $20,000 gross. BUT this was for last year and who knows if it will change for this year???
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    Quote Originally Posted by directrecycle View Post
    Your not selling to either paypal or ebay. you are selling to the buyer of your product. Shouldnt get a 1099 until your fee's hit $600
    Well that would only take about a month and a half for me then. The buyers are the lifeblood of my business, i offer free shipping and a 30 day full return policy to keep them happy.


    I think they will lower it to $10k and 100 transactions. There are still way too many people flying below the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    i offer free shipping and a 30 day full return policy
    If you are taking PayPal for payment
    You are offering a 45 day return policy


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