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EcoSafe ENTER WITH CAUTION, olddude... 02-18-2013, 05:36 PM
Jvcr1 Yeah, I despise those... 02-18-2013, 05:44 PM
Phantoms001 No way these shows are... 02-18-2013, 06:00 PM
Immulmen On Storage wars they found a... 02-19-2013, 04:42 AM
Mick Next time you watch one,... 02-18-2013, 06:07 PM
happyscraper Most of the time the... 02-18-2013, 06:13 PM
Ecycle Atlanta Truth is there have been... 02-18-2013, 06:45 PM
EcoSafe no offense meant. those... 02-18-2013, 08:56 PM
grouchyolddude I started "picking" my nose... 02-19-2013, 05:20 AM
KzScrapper Seems everything on TV these... 02-19-2013, 05:36 AM
Ecycle Atlanta That show is just awful. I... 02-19-2013, 11:26 AM
jghilino They state right at the... 02-19-2013, 07:52 AM
taterjuice Of course these shows are... 02-19-2013, 08:01 AM
NobleMetalWorks The reality shows bother me... 02-19-2013, 12:47 PM
Ecycle Atlanta Yes, great response Scott. ... 02-19-2013, 01:42 PM
savage85 Your humble opinion? Ripping... 02-21-2013, 07:33 PM
NobleMetalWorks I sound like a socialistic? ... 02-21-2013, 08:14 PM
Mechanic688 ut oh; Why do I have to keep... 02-21-2013, 09:34 PM
TheRecycler Olddude I call myself... 02-19-2013, 05:47 PM
unknownk Reality shows started as... 02-19-2013, 06:51 PM
BurlyGuys Don't care that they're... 02-20-2013, 02:39 AM
Scrapette I hardly ever watch the... 02-20-2013, 07:21 AM
826ih lol id never want to show how... 02-20-2013, 07:59 AM
unknownk They have their own shop and... 02-20-2013, 09:37 AM
sollozo45 lol those are crazy... 02-22-2013, 01:03 AM
NobleMetalWorks It's almost as if these... 02-20-2013, 02:05 PM
Mechanic688 Do what I do, I email the... 02-20-2013, 06:51 PM
street_sweeper I don't think pawnstars need... 02-21-2013, 12:26 AM
NobleMetalWorks Tell him you are going to... 02-21-2013, 12:58 AM
skylinejack Of course the "reality shows"... 02-21-2013, 05:26 AM
PartTimeScrapper There are no wrestlers in the... 02-21-2013, 05:47 AM
skylinejack See what I mean? Even the... 02-21-2013, 11:28 AM
Mechanic688 I think there was a World... 02-21-2013, 06:53 PM
Sirscrapalot Yea..like Scott said. Have... 02-21-2013, 05:54 AM
charn I liked the picking/auction... 02-21-2013, 02:55 PM
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    ENTER WITH CAUTION, olddude rant

    Haven't really done one of these for a while so, here goes,

    first of all I hate the term "pickers" but that's just me. I dont like tv shows that proclaim to be "reality shows" when their are, for the most part, unreality shows. do you realy think those guy on Pickers or what ever the show is called just one day decided they were going to do a tv show and off they went. They own a big auction house and have many many experts at their disposal. It is the same with all the others, pawn stars, storage wars and all the rest.



    So you really beieve the "survivors are really stuck on some god forsaken Island with out millions of dollars of back up behind the trees.

    Now for the picker /scrapper thing. A scrapper can pick out certain things out of his scrap that has more then scrap value and in that way be a "treasure hunter".

    A "picker" < I have personally done a lot of picking in my youth. Cotton, Beans, Corn, and pulling peanuts by hand to name a few.

    I have nothing against those who glean yard sales and antique stashes for treasure in fact I love it but I would never call myself or others that "treasure hunt" pickers just because of an unreality show. But then thats just me
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    Yeah, I despise those "reality" shows too, as they are totally staged and unreal in essence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jvcr1 View Post
    Yeah, I despise those "reality" shows too, as they are totally staged and unreal in essence.
    No way these shows are rigged.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms001 View Post
    On Storage wars they found a Russian sidecar motorcycle. I know the owner of the motorcycle and he did not buy it from them. It came with a receipt renting it to the show for $600. It was planted.
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    Next time you watch one, think of where the camera is to get that shot. Often, what they're having so much trouble getting to; The cameraman (and crew) has already gotten there carrying heavy equipment.
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    Most of the time the apprassors on "storage wars" and "Pawn stars" are the actual owners of the things they are aprassing. I could never figure out why people would pring the things that they do to a pawn shop to sell. Some of those items would sell for alot more at a good auction house or even on e-bay. Just my .02

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    Truth is there have been "pickers" out there for eons, while the shows are certainly not "reality". I've been a picker for a long time. It basically starts when you go out looking for something that you have gained knowledge in (pottery, art, coins, furniture, etc.). As time goes by, you gain education in other things as well by doing research, reading or joining forums like this. My hunt at garage sales, auctions, etc. is 10x more expanded than it was 20 years ago, which means my potential to make a profit is much greater. Plus I just love to go to those places instead of the movies or bowling, so it is entertainment for me. Bottom line is that your rant is well founded in that the shows depict unreal conditions and events that may happen possibly 1 out of 50 times instead of 3x per episode. I love being a "picker", just dont confuse me with those shows

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    no offense meant. those shows just turned me off that tag. I'd much rather be a treasure hunter. You wanting to be refereed to as a "picker" is your prerogative.

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    I started "picking" my nose at a very young age. As I've grown older, my methods have improved but my fingers have got bigger.
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    Seems everything on TV these days is rigged including the news. If I sit down to watch, my goal is to be half way entertained and come away learning something new about an item they have on there whether it be about it's history or a ballpark value...usually you have to cut their estimate by 1/3 -1/2 to be realistic though.

    There is one show on PBS that 3-4 "Pickers" set out to find things then sell them at auction at the end of the show. These folks lose money or break even most the time though which proves two points...its not as easy as it looks and Public TV has no idea the value of a Dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KzScrapper View Post
    Seems everything on TV these days is rigged including the news. If I sit down to watch, my goal is to be half way entertained and come away learning something new about an item they have on there whether it be about it's history or a ballpark value...usually you have to cut their estimate by 1/3 -1/2 to be realistic though.

    There is one show on PBS that 3-4 "Pickers" set out to find things then sell them at auction at the end of the show. These folks lose money or break even most the time though which proves two points...its not as easy as it looks and Public TV has no idea the value of a Dollar.
    That show is just awful. I dont know who produced it but it is done very poorly. The other thing is that they send out these people from "upscale" cities and think the auction value in Bugtussel, Iowa will be the same. That show irks me. Must be partially founded by the Fed's. Oh, and olddude, i like the treasure hunter tag too. Makes me think of being on a ship off the coast of Florida looking for a lost Spanish galleon...with Jimmy Buffet playing in the background

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    They state right at the beginning of the show Auction Hunters that this is the story of there best finds. So basically they are telling you upfront that its fake. I like that. I like the storag unit shows and atend storage auctions regularly to wash people shell out thousands of dollars for junk. The tv craze us brought alot of stupidity into the auctions. Ive seen people spend $2000 on a unit pull 3 decent things out and leave the rest behind.
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    Of course these shows are fake, if it was just real life it'd be boring as hell and no one would watch it. I like to watch some of the before mentioned shows But purely for entertainment sake I don't believe they hold a bit of truth to them.
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    The reality shows bother me as well...

    What people don't generally know is when, like on the "Gold Rush" series, people are complaining about not making any money, they are still being paid. According to the Actors Guild, they have to be paid at least $1,000 per episode. The reality is (no pun intended) if they have a halfway decent manager, they are probably making a lot more off the show than they are making in gold, or picking, or buying auctioned storage units, etc.

    Another thing that bothers me in these shows is that the "stars" always seem to be ripping someone off, the pawn shops pay less than value, the storage units are auctioning off peoples items, the pickers are selling them items for many times more than what they paid for them. It seems to me they are encouraging the idea it's okay to profit from other peoples misfortune or their own greed.

    Just my humble opinion, but I really believe that shows like these are adding to the decay of our society under the guise of entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleMetalWorks View Post
    The reality shows bother me as well...

    What people don't generally know is when, like on the "Gold Rush" series, people are complaining about not making any money, they are still being paid. According to the Actors Guild, they have to be paid at least $1,000 per episode. The reality is (no pun intended) if they have a halfway decent manager, they are probably making a lot more off the show than they are making in gold, or picking, or buying auctioned storage units, etc.

    Another thing that bothers me in these shows is that the "stars" always seem to be ripping someone off, the pawn shops pay less than value, the storage units are auctioning off peoples items, the pickers are selling them items for many times more than what they paid for them. It seems to me they are encouraging the idea it's okay to profit from other peoples misfortune or their own greed.

    Just my humble opinion, but I really believe that shows like these are adding to the decay of our society under the guise of entertainment.

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    Yes, great response Scott. There is definetely a "ethics" question when you are in the business of buying in order to resell. At what point does getting a "good deal" turn into "ripping off" someone. Some food for thought and could probably lead into hundreds of responses, so I'll just leave it as a rhetorical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleMetalWorks View Post
    The reality shows bother me as well...

    What people don't generally know is when, like on the "Gold Rush" series, people are complaining about not making any money, they are still being paid. According to the Actors Guild, they have to be paid at least $1,000 per episode. The reality is (no pun intended) if they have a halfway decent manager, they are probably making a lot more off the show than they are making in gold, or picking, or buying auctioned storage units, etc.

    Another thing that bothers me in these shows is that the "stars" always seem to be ripping someone off, the pawn shops pay less than value, the storage units are auctioning off peoples items, the pickers are selling them items for many times more than what they paid for them. It seems to me they are encouraging the idea it's okay to profit from other peoples misfortune or their own greed.

    Just my humble opinion, but I really believe that shows like these are adding to the decay of our society under the guise of entertainment.

    Scott
    Your humble opinion? Ripping People off? You sound like a socialistic. Does Hussein pay you each month? Look, people have to make money to eat to survive don't be jealous just because they are making money and you are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savage85 View Post
    Your humble opinion? Ripping People off? You sound like a socialistic. Does Hussein pay you each month? Look, people have to make money to eat to survive don't be jealous just because they are making money and you are not.
    I sound like a socialistic? You mean a socialist? Do you even know what a socialist is? A better insult would have been to call me a communist.

    If you want to talk about political science, and are seriously curious as to what my interests are, you can message me. I'm no different than what our for-fathers were. I think insulting me in public forum without actually knowing who and what I am was a bit rude, but no matter. It did make me laugh.

    Now that you have taken a cheap shot at me, I would like to give you an example of what I am talking about. I'll use storage units as an example. On those types of reality shows what they are showing you are almost always someone's storage locker that has come up for auction because the person who had it could not afford to pay the price of the storage locker anymore, and had no place to put the items because most likely they were homeless, living with relatives or trying to make ends meet so they could provide for their family, or worse.

    How did they get into this situation? Usually of no fault of their own. Banks were illegally throwing loans at people, just like in the 80s during the S&L debacle. I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the term NINJA loan but it means No Income, No Job, No Assets. They didn't check anything and threw the money at people who were looking to purchase houses. They did this because as fast as they could write the loans, investors were buying the bad debt. Then the investors were putting these portfolios together and selling them to other banks, and the problem was perpetuated over and over, again and again.

    Now take your average joe blow US Citizen, hard working, honest, providing for their family, etc. Lets say they are a manager at your local super market. The Wallmart moves in (Which I consider to be just about as anti-American as can be). The super market is just simply out of luck because it happens to be a super Wallmart moving in. They open, they sell their items for far less than any of the competition and once they drive their competition out, they raise their prices. That manager at the local super market looses their job, their good paying job that provided them with insurance for their family. Now what do they do, go to work at Wallmart for minimum wage? How can they, they have their loan to pay on their home.

    Meanwhile, their 5 year interest only NINJA loan is coming up, and they have to start paying on it. During the period of time when things were great, this family probably started buying on credit, because this is what our Government, banks and financing institutions were encouraging us to do. So they have their credit card debt, they lost a good job, their NINJA loan is coming up so they try to sell their house, and try to sell it fast. Right at the same time all the baby boomers are starting to retire and selling their own homes to pull the equity out for their retirement. The housing market crashes, and I don't mean like it did during the S&L scandal, but far worse.

    At the same time Walmart is offering to pay new employees minimum wage with no insurance, matter of fact they are teaching their employees how to get public assistance, and health insurance.

    So Mr Joe Blow can't sell his house, no matter what he tries to do, his credit card debt gets out of hand because that's now the only way he can make ends meet, pay the bills, buy food, clothes for his kids for school, etc etc etc. And now the bank forecloses on his house, because he has no job his credit cards go into collection, so he gets all his worldly belongings together and stuffs it into a storage locker.

    And the next thing you know someone is auctioning off all the things of this world his family owns, and some idiotic characters are playing out some childish drama on some ridicules reality TV show. It's the TV show that is praying on the disassembling of our great nation. It started with the banking and credit card institutions, it was propagated by the ultra rich, and is now digested and presented to the American Public as entertainment. I don't see how not liking this situation and commenting on it makes me a socialist, on the contrary, I believe we need to have more small business owners, because it's honestly people who own businesses who have any say at all about anything. When this nation was at it's strongest is when there were more business owners. Now there are more people on public assistance, which seems like socialism to me, while all their worldly possessions are being auctioned off on some reality program.

    It's idiot TV, whatever sucks in the sheaple so they can continue selling add space for junk made in China. If you are profiting off someone's misfortune, then shame on you I say. If we all stood up as one single voice and demanded that the banks be held accountable, that the huge companies that were bailed out be held accountable for their actions, nobody would be loosing their homes today. We wouldn't have this huge giant socialistic burden in the form of public assistance to bear right now. We would be strong instead of economically fragile.

    So excuse me for believing in the individual instead of the giant corporations. Excuse me for not thinking that tearing apart someone's life is entertaining. Excuse me for being sick and tired of the American dream being ripped out of the hands of so many people who have worked so hard for so many years to realize it.

    I think next time, before you post about something you know absolutely nothing about you should ask first instead of making yourself out to be totally ignorant. It only takes a second to ask, but it takes a lifetime to change someone's mind once you have made yourself to look a specific way.

    I have lost, and rebuilt my life twice over already. I am self made, and worked very hard to get to the point in my life I am at. I am putting my daughter through Stanford University, I have paid off the house my ex-wife currently lives in and I have no debt. I have also helped other people, friends and family, keep their homes and even helped one start a business. You sir, owe me an apology!

    And if I might add my own assumptions, you sound like someone who is about 27-29 years of age. I bet I could easily profile you, and if you would like, I would truly enjoy doing so right here on the forum, just for entertainment value, then we can see how you like it, someone profiting off your misfortune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savage85 View Post
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    Reality shows started as unscripted, put some people together with different backgrounds and see what happens and edit out 99% of the boring crud. The shows you are talking about now Pickers, pawnstars etc are mostly just commercials for the owners and entertainment TV for the viewers. People watch reality tv because the exagerated personalities and situations are amusing to them. I do kind of hate all the shows showing garbage as being worth money has inflated asking prices on ebay and garage sales for stuff that will never sell anyway.

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