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    <gentle laughter> Maybe not once he realizes what he might be getting himself into ?

    It's a good idea to try and keep the peace with the neighbors. My nearest is about 600 feet away. She's a wealthy Jewish retired college professor from New York City.

    We're two people from completely different cultures. It's ripe for conflict.

    LOL ... if found that an occasional bit of target practice out back with the 12 ga. encourages her to mind her own business and stay on her side of the line. They have a morbid fear of firearms even when there's no threat present !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoman View Post
    I concur with everything everyone said and only have a couple things to add.


    1) Invest in an outside cat! I know it sounds silly, but you will NEVER Get mice if you have a cat. Only feed it once a day and not enough o fill it. It will find its own food i.e. mice

    2) Riding lawn mower. The bigger the better. Zero turn turn if possible.

    3) There is definitely the concern of increased fuel consumption. Things we do to help this is do all our errands all at once, once a week. Try to either grow as much of your own food as possible or find a source for bulk food. We used to live close enough to a store owned by Mennonites. It was the cheapest store we ever shopped at. Was a shame we moved too far away from them. I also got a diesel truck and it was way better on fuel than my gas truck.

    4) Make sure you have a 4x4 vehicle. When moved into our current house we had a front wheel drive van. We are so BFE out here we are the one of the last roads to get plowed. Also our first year here, even if it was plowed we couldn't make it up the two hills on our road to get home. We'd have to leave it for the next day and walk home with 2 small girls and a newborn.....up those two hills then up our long driveway as we live on a hill also haha. Wifey doesn't like that!!!

    5)invest in motion activated outdoor cameras. Someone has let my cows out several times. Once by ramming into a gate post that is NOT accessible from the road!! Then we have to go find them.....usually they stayed home but a couple times they went into the woods and into the fields behind our property.....hope you know how to follow tracks and can tell the difference between a calf hoof and a deer hoof! Just the other day I noticed more tire tracks up through my yard.....I have no idea who it was.

    6) if you do raise animals, make sure you are as prepared as possible. Type of fencing is crucial!! Lol!


    I love living out here though! I get to do whatever I want. It's great. I can take a deer in my back yard and two years ago I watched a doe give birth in my pasture. It was a nice thing to see. Now I did go on a crow shoot a couple of weeks ago and we started on my property. I heard crow just a few trees in the woods and headed that way. I was almost there when I spotted a doe about 50 feet away. I stopped walking and she took off into the woods so I continued stalking this crow. I got about twenty feet to the woods when all of a sudden I hear this loud SNORT, STOMP, CRASH as a buck charged at me outta the woods..... He stopped just the edge but I about crapped myself I'll tell you what!! Lol!



    God made the country, and man made the town. ~William Cowper

    It is not easy to walk alone in the country without musing upon something. ~Charles D1ckens

    Nor rural sights alone, but rural sounds,
    Exhilarate the spirit, and restore
    The tone of languid nature.- William Cowper
    Hypo, you didn't punch the buck in the nose?! Dude...my faith has been shaken!

    I said I'd comment so here goes...

    I was born an raised in DC an South of it in Northern Va. My county alone had 1 million people. I hated it. Soon as I could get away..I did. First to Az..where yes, while I was in Tucson, I was far enough outside the city, that I was basically out in the sticks. 15 minute ride into the city, 10 minute ride to further out into nowhere! I loved it. When I finally came back east, I of course came back to Va, an promptly moved away again to my Sandbar.

    Now you say.."but oh Great Sirscrapalot...a sandbar isn't country!" But it is! Lest mine is. We have 30k total year round residents spread out over a hundred or so miles of sandbar. My sandbar becomes the sticks come winter time. After 7 hardly any cars on the hwy, things close down super early except the Grocery Store, an a couple bars. Streets are so dark, due to a lack of street lights, you can see walking down the road, or beach by star or moon light! Just over the bridge on the mainland, is the County of Currituck. Lots of farms, and old school homes on 5 or more acres of land. Used be lots of cotton, tobacco, etc type farms back in the day. That's where folks go to get away from the livelier areas on the sandbar. Hell..I've driven that road many times coming back from Va or a scrap run in that area, an I'm lucky to see another car passing me or going in my direction after 6 if it's not summer time.

    For me this works...I get a lot of.."city/town" life during the summer. The rest of the year I might as will live in BFE. Some of you recall me speaking of my time in Kansas working for Amazon. If I had to move off my sandbar somewhere else..I would seek a town like that. 7 to 10k at the most population wise. A hour or two from the big city, but otherwise could get what I need nearby. Hell in Coffeyville Ks, a evening out is grabbing the kids an wife an going to walmart! lol! Even the bars closed early! For me the goal isn't to move to the country but to travel in a rv around the country! Ha ha! If not able to do my traveling then I'd take a home in the country.

    I got an Aunt who lives down in Ga, just outside of Atlanta in Douglasville. When she first moved down there, their home was considered country. 10 to 15 minute drive to the stores an shopping, an her neighbors were far enough to not bother her, but close enough if she or her family ever needed help. They are on well water, an no tractor as their 5 acres are wooded. All the lots by her are 5 acre lots. So there is distance between them, but again..close enough for the socializing an help if needed.

    Guess I'm saying..you can live in the country an still be close to things if you so desire. Trick is finding that kind of area where you are now without relocating. I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to get be where you are with neighbors on top of you and all up in your business. My neighbor..I only see 3 months out of the year. They only come an stay during the summer, rest of the time..my street is literally..my street.

    Every day I wake up on my sandbar, I'm thankful I don't have prying neighbors, HOA's, or anyone else telling me how to live, or operate at my house. I use common sense running my business out of my house. I keep it clean an orderly outside..the inside..pure chaos in my shop..LOL! So like Joon Ree Karate...nobody bothers me!

    As one whose knees are getting worse with age, an who climbs stairs every day just to get to the front door..I wish ya the best of luck finding that..sweet spot. You, the wife, an the kids deserve to be as happy as you can be in your home and neighborhood.

    Ahh..another novel by yours truly. I'm glad I didn't type all that out on my freaking cell phone!

    I will leave you with these wise words from Hank Williams jr.

    The preacher man says it's the end of time
    And the Mississippi River, she's a going dry
    The interest is up and the stock markets down
    And you only get mugged if you go downtown

    I live back in the woods, you see
    My woman and the kids and the dogs and me
    I got a shotgun and a rifle and a four wheel drive
    And a countryboy can survive, country folks can survive

    I can plow a field all day long, I can catch catfish from dusk 'til dawn
    Make our own whiskey and our own smoke too
    Ain't too many things these boys can't do
    We grow good old tomatoes and homemade wine
    And countryboy can survive, country folk can survive

    Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run
    'Cause we're them ol' boys raised on shotguns
    We say grace and we say ma'am
    And if you ain't into that, we don't give a ****

    We came from the West Virginia coal mines
    And the Rocky Mountains and the Western skies
    And we can skin a buck, we can run a trout line
    And a countryboy can survive, country folks can survive

    There's more, but you can google the Video..or I'll add it to the music thread.


    Sirscrapalot - A country boy can survive...

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    Here's some views of my "country" living..Sandbar style.

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    Notice the lack of people? I love sandbar country living!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper View Post
    That kind of stuff pisses me off to no end. Reminds me of the city slickers that move next to a dairy or cattle farm, then piss and moan about the sights and smells. Uh...who was here first? Exactly.
    We have this problem on my Sandbar. We get folks who move here from the big cities, an want to make it into what they left. Look..if I wanted to live in jersey..I wouldn't have moved 2 miles out in the freaking ocean! Its one reason I love my sandbar so much..yes I live at the beach, but its..a country beach. We're not about clubs an a late night hell raising, an all that busy stuff. Like I tell folks who want to visit..if you want night life with clubs an bars, an all that..go to Va Beach, or Myrtle Beach. You come here to chill, relax, fish, crab, enjoy the weather, spend time with family an friends, go hunting, grilling, etc. The simple things in life.

    I live..8.5 miles from a wal mart. An it's the only one, from here to the Va state line. No best buy, don't have 50 bajillion chain restaurants, or any of that jazz. We're not about tacky tourism..lol. It's tasteful! Ha ha!

    Some of my fondest memories when I was younger was visiting my Great Nana up in New Hampshire. We used to joke if you saw more then 3 cars pass on her road in a day, it meant someone had died. The cops knew you by name, not because you were in trouble, but because it was such a small town! Biggest store by her was a gas station with a deli, so it was the place to go get the latest news. Nights were spent sitting around the table gabbing with family and friends, or outside messing around with nature. Now an then we'd gather around the tv an watch..wait for it...Jeopardy an Wheel of fortune. No crazy high tech cable for her!

    Country living..even tho it means more self doing an the like, just always seemed so much easier an enjoyable.

    I won't give up the peacefulness of my sandbar with out a fight, no matter how many city dwelling yankee's try an move here an change it.

    Now, I think I'ma go get my chair comfy on the back deck for the Meteor shower later tonight.

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    really great thread enjoyed everbodys post was raised in the country nothing like it ,

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    Great thread Sledge.

    I came from the "city". In the Dakotas 50k people is the city. haha. I moved to a small town in South Dakota (less than 1000 pop.) when I met my wife about 4 years ago. We live on the edge of town, and if I was an articulate man, I would have typed EXACTLY what Jon typed!!! IMHO he nailed it.

    I struggled here at first, but quickly became good at making a list of things I need when we "go into town". I have an app on my phone called "Errands". It's basically just a list of things I need to pick up when we do hit Wal-Mart or Menards (about 30mi).

    Yes, having a 4X4 is important out in the boonies, but having a small car with a 4-banger is great for running into town. I have a 90 Toyota Celica with 190K miles that fits the bill.

    Life here is good. Look out the window and see corn or soybeans far as the eye can see, lots of pheasants, deer, and we have a den of fox that live a few hundred yards out. The dogs get into a tangle with a skunk occasionally, but that's a small price to pay for all the privacy. I bang away in the garage, and blast the radio, and nobody hassles me.

    Just my experience thus far.
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    Scrappah made some very good observations.

    Just one comment on them.....a swamp might be a great thing to have as a way of keeping neighbors away, at least on that side, but doesn't that kind of standing water equal lots of bugs and mosquitos? I've no experience with that kind of water but in my limited experience most people steer clear of those areas. (Unless a midnight cupful of oil in the right place can help kill the mosquito larvae)

    Jon.

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    I can't speak for swamps, but here on the sandbar, it's the skeeter's an black flies now an then. The skeeter's...I bust out the citronella candle. Seems to work so I can enjoy the evening outside. Seems better then my County's way of handling it..with dropping a spray from a plane. Standing water isn't to bad unless it's been very rainy, or a big storm passed through like a hurricane or tropical storm. Sound side they might argue otherwise due to the water there. I'm ocean side so..yea, the candle's work.

    Black flies..I just kill'm as I find them, thankfully where I am their not so bad. Nag's head..they like to swarm down that way some years.

    An in my one post..I said Country living with easier..I just meant compared to the cities I've lived in. For me the country is a nice change of pace to constant drama, emergency vehicles, crime, rush rush rush, etc. You folks living in the Dakota's or Canada wilds, got it a bit rougher then me, but then..you all seem to enjoy it. Just wanted to clarify I didn't mean it was easy..easy..lol! If that makes sense.

    Some day I'll enjoy living in the Dakota's an the like, even if it's just a few weeks or month at a time as I pass by in my RV.

    Hrrm..maybe I'll buy some land throw down a concrete pad, wire up the electric an give it a whirl part of the year.Ha ha!

    Sirscrapalot - “The city, no matter how small, is corrupt and unrepentant, while the sun shines brighter in the country, making people more wholesome.” - Lori Lansens

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    Gents.. Once again a night of posting filling my mind with great ideas, thoughts and advice! Well feel like I'm getting a taste of it now. My internet at home is down.. feel like a junkie without my fix.. so I'm getting it on the work PC for now.

    One thing I failed to mention I think is a point that I probably should make. I'm a self proclaimed nerd--wife is too. My wife and I are not bar hoppers or party people. We got all that out of our system while in college. Now we are blessed if we get a "date night" every couple of months. So as far as any country "lack of nightlife" We won't be bored without the bars or whatnot. We tend to be so busy doing things with the 4 of us.. we rarely take time out to go party. I'd say a perfect night for us (with kids included) would be a bonfire, roasting hotdogs and making s'mores. We're pretty simple and easy.

    I have to say the whole idea of the well, pumps, etc. is COMPLETELY foreign to me. I do worry about that but if I do some digging into and learning NOW.. I may actually pull off having some semblance of understanding. In looking for properties I have seen things in listings saying "soil tests" etc. I assume that is for the well.. Oh so much to learn.

    Keep em coming folks. I'm enjoying the education and hopefully a lot of you are enjoying being able to brag a bit on your slice of heaven you have made into your home!
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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    Special note to 350Scrapper: No worries about me complaining about the scrap.. I'm AM the man with the scrap .. working to keep that away from the eyes of my present neighbors.

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    Thanks for getting me wondering again Sledge...Paybacks are a b!tch! Seriously though, with the exception of Mick's Tribute, this has been one of the best threads on here in a while.

    Can totally relate to being nerds etc...set foot in a bar for the first time in years about a month ago, and only to celebrate a friends b day. Had date night last Sunday at noon...first movie of the day with wife and 20 yo daughter. Ready for bed too many nights in the summer before dark...but ready to go at 4-430am.
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    Wow.. to even be compared to a thread that celebrates an awesome human beings life is quite a compliment. Thanks KZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge View Post
    Gents.. Once again a night of posting filling my mind with great ideas, thoughts and advice! Well feel like I'm getting a taste of it now. My internet at home is down.. feel like a junkie without my fix.. so I'm getting it on the work PC for now.

    One thing I failed to mention I think is a point that I probably should make. I'm a self proclaimed nerd--wife is too. My wife and I are not bar hoppers or party people. We got all that out of our system while in college. Now we are blessed if we get a "date night" every couple of months. So as far as any country "lack of nightlife" We won't be bored without the bars or whatnot. We tend to be so busy doing things with the 4 of us.. we rarely take time out to go party. I'd say a perfect night for us (with kids included) would be a bonfire, roasting hotdogs and making s'mores. We're pretty simple and easy.

    I have to say the whole idea of the well, pumps, etc. is COMPLETELY foreign to me. I do worry about that but if I do some digging into and learning NOW.. I may actually pull off having some semblance of understanding. In looking for properties I have seen things in listings saying "soil tests" etc. I assume that is for the well.. Oh so much to learn.

    Keep em coming folks. I'm enjoying the education and hopefully a lot of you are enjoying being able to brag a bit on your slice of heaven you have made into your home!
    sledge, you and your wife sound like us, simple people, enjoy the real things in life that most people take for granted, family oriented. of course if i didn't think that was the best way to be, I wouldnt be that way. But kudos, sound like my kinda people.

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    Thanks phred.

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    Sledge.....don't worry too much about wells unless you're planning on buying a plot of bedrock. In normal places they cost around $2000. I just had to replace mine a few months ago after it ran for 19 years.

    Soil tests....It could be for the well but only to see if there was too much rock maybe. Other soil tests are used to check fertility and acidity. You don't want to get something that won't grow grass. They could be talking about a perc test (percolation test) which is the test you have to do before installing a septic tank. This test checks the soil's permeability so that your sewer system doesn't back up on you. If they have done other soil tests, what are they saying? What are the results? That might help in figuring out what kind of test it is.

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    I thought maybe the soil test was maybe for planting? A lot of these were just on bare lots.. I'm looking for livable land.. but I assume someone could buy it to farm it.. maybe that is why they run a soil test?

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    Yes, that could be it. If the soil tests talk about ph (acidity level), Potassium, Nitrogen and Phosphorus, you'll know that's about the plants.

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    Id like to hear about what Sledge's plans are as far as his scrap and recycling setup at his new place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsamsonite View Post
    Id like to hear about what Sledge's plans are as far as his scrap and recycling setup at his new place.
    Plans for scrapping probably won't change far off of what I do now. The upside I see is the space and the ability to break things down and then store until a more profitable load can be taken in. Perfect example.. If I were to collect say 10 stoves over the course of time. They can be broken down and stored in the barn until I can take a trailer-load instead of 1 or 2 in the back of the truck. Likewise. I could buy more than one vehicle.. store one or two, strip them INSIDE, and have the ability to hold items for price fluctuations if necessary. Right now steel is around $200 to $215 in my area.. if I tucked away those cars and those stoves until it hits $240 as it does around here at the right times. I can further profit off of the work.

    Right now I basically have to buy at current price and sell at current market price.. I have no room to do otherwise. This would allow me to do that.. as just one example.

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    You will find yourself going often to the city, since you are used to those services/spots. I am sure you will succeed regardless..good luck with everything.
    Nothing like the country for stockpiling, little or no neighbours to complain, quietness, relaxation...think its a good move for more than 1 reason...

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