Awful Craigslist Story

wow that's f.kd up the worst thing to ever happen to me from clist is things are still posted but gone. I have protection with me though for these crazy times but my god that's terrible

kz - Thanks for reminding all of us that CL "can be" dangerous. When I first herd that on the news last night I couldn't get it out of my head, what a total night mare this young lady had to endure. This morning when I heard it on the news again, this time with the young lady talking to the 911 dispatcher, it made me angry! Crags List needs to take some action and make changes to how they run their listings. I don't know what they can do, but there have been way too many CL incidents. People have been murdered and seriously injured responding to CL adds.

I have used CL adds only twice to sell items, a old van and a brand new electric stove. With the same results, many phone calls, with people wanting something for nothing, ending with me selling to someone not from a CL lead.

Ironically yesterday afternoon, I went on CL just to see what kind of "FREE" items were listed in my area. I did this after reading most of the Craig's List threads I have read hear on SMF. I did this before I herd this really disturbing news about this young lady in the Denver area.

I have come to the conclusion that there are way to many people "CHASING the same RABBIT", with very little gain. That this "RABBIT", isn't always a innocent little "BUNNY HOPPER". I'm sure some people have found CL to be a valuable resource and good service for many for just as many reasons. After reading all of the "free" listings in my CL area and this bad news story. I think when it comes to CL for me, I'M OUT!

Well that sucks. Not cool at all. An yes, the criminals should be quartered an stuck on the four points of Colorado's border..ala Braveheart. Who am I kidding, it wouldn't stop someone crazy enough to do something like this.

Far as CL..

No they don't need to change. They do plenty to remind you to do your transactions in a public place, or a venue with people. It's all over the ads an website. We're all aware the dangers of using CL. If your not you've been living under a rock since it first opened. There have an always will be criminal activity on there. From hookers, to drugs, to murders. It's up to US the users to have the common sense to do our business in a public setting. Yes it's easier to go to their house or yours..but why would you risk it? Set the meet up 10 minutes or whatever from home at your closest shopping center, book store, coffee shop, etc..somewhere with people.

What happened to this young lady an her child is horrible. Sadly, it's not Craigslist fault nor did they do anything wrong. An if it makes someone mad..fine. CL didn't set up the time, location, or anything else. The victim an criminal did.

I hope they throw the douche bag who did this so far under the jailhouse toxic waste will be safer before they see the light.

Sirscrapalot - First rule..Protect yourself, nobody else will. - I dunno, I made it up.

I had to double post..edit wouldn't work so well.

My last post I said they had it on adds, I mistaken.

There is a link at the bottom of adds tho to a "safety" section. Not the best an could be improved, but I still see no wrong on their part. To me it will always be up to me to protect myself. It's not hard to google an address an see what kind of area it is. Or you know use your phone. Even the crappy flip tops you can buy today have access to internet an gps.

link to personal safety page - craigslist | about > safety

Sirscrapalot - Prepare for the worse, hope for the best.

I don't think CL did anything wrong, a crime was committed using there web site to commit that crime. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people. Craig's List has been used by so many criminals to do wrong, in many places and just about every perceivable way. I don't know what else they can do, other than the warnings they already post. Legally they may or may not be legally responsible in this case. In law a organization, companies, groups and individuals can be named as a "Party" in legal proceedings. What will more than likely occur, is a civil suit filed by this victims lawyer (I'm sure she will have no problem finding one of those). More than likely CL will be named in a civil suit as a party in this crime. Then a court will need to determine if CL has been negligent in any way, I'm sure CL has been named in many civil suits. I don't know how they have avoided not being named in many lawsuits, just knowing how many crimes that are committed through the use of their site.

My experience with CL is very limited, but the two times I tried to sell items. The new elective stove I listed on CL was very unproductive and a total waste of time for me. I obtained the stove and a lot of other brand new items in a settlement, a company owed me a lot of money and the items were part of a settlement. The stove was a new model, never used, no damage and was retailing for $900. I listed it on CL with all of the specs and information for $300. I did this twice, with a month in between each listing. I had so many calls about the stove, it was crazy. Almost all of the calls started with "would you take a lower amount of money" and the real problem was "can I come look at it". I couldn't believe how many people I showed this stove to and most would say "that's a really nice stove, but I thought it was going to be a gas one". I even had one guy show up, that said I thought it would be "free by now". Don't know how that happened, because in the phone conversations I had, I only gave my address out to people that said they were interested in buying a electric stove. I ended up selling it on a Saturday in a yard sale, it sold in the first couple of hours. I sold it to a young couple for $275 and they got a top of the line stove for a bargain price.

I say I'm out, when it comes to CL, based on my own experience, what I read here at SMF and the many bad news stories. For me it just seems to be not worth it. Not sure how CL makes revenue or how they keep going with all the bad publicity they receive with stories like this.

An opportunity to commit the crime was using craigslist. Hay come over and I'll give you 3' feet of 2" copper pipe!! This lady should die the same way her victim did!

Burt like everything there is good an bad.

You still shop in a city? Bad things happen all the time.

Shop on eBay or online? - Scams, scammers, an the like abound.

Travel? How can you? all the crimes being committed on tourists, from petty theft to rape an murder.

Guess I'm saying don't give up on CL. Just use your commonsense.

You do when you travel or buy online, I'm sure. Same thing with CL. Or eBay, or that vacation to L.A. .

I'm not trying to make light of what happened to this lady, just trying to point out one can limit the danger they place themselves in with just a few simple steps. Yes bad things can still happen, but at lest you did your part to make it as safe as you can.

I still visit Washington, D.C. All kind of crimes happen near or around the monuments an Mall. I still visit so the bad guys don't win.

Sirscrapalot - The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing. - JFK, by way of Edmund Burke an somebody else..it's a whole big controversy on who actually said it!