Copper price

Well, spot copper is now under $2.00 a pound. Is there no bottom?

Years ago i seen copper at 60 to 70 cent a pound. People were glad to get rid of it . If you think 2 dollar is the bottom . You could be right. I hope you are right but I do not think you will be. I have talk to enough people that think we could see 1.50 comex . Look at China their stock market is not good. China has been building their factories ,cars etc. For 20 to 30 years. Some of these building factories are reaching the end of their usefulness. They are starting to supply their own scrap stream .

Yes China is in a recession comparable to the "Great Recession" of 2008 in the US

I think scrap will be high when one of two things happen
china buys in bulk from us again less likely with their collapsing markets and industries at the moment.
USA re gears for domestic production along with other nations that had shipped factories overseas that would raise scrap prices for needed metals .

If the republicans/democrats get elected and start a trade war with china it will be cheaper to produce products a home than over seas .

And this is why hoarding is not smart. Buy today- Sell today.

I've been Saying $1.60 Comex/LME For Cu for a year, No one listened

It's hard for us (USA) to understand the complexities of China and the realities of China at the same time, put our political/economic differences side by side. Can't be done, like saying apples taste just like a oranges, they do not and never will. We are still the worlds economic global leader, but we need to work on our own problems. Like building a scrap industry that can refine our own waste so we don't need to ship more than half of our scrap overseas to be refined. Simply put we don't have the metal refining capacity period, we shut them down do to pollution and high labor cost. It's cheaper to ship 40,000 pounds of scrap copper from Los Angeles to Hong Kong, then it is from LA to Chicago.

Originally Posted by HT1

I've been Saying $1.60 Comex/LME For Cu for a year, No one listened

It's easier to take good news than bad.. Especially concerning money.. (or lack there of)

Its the same here in the UK bright is at £2.60 per kg I'm stripping copper out of fridge compressors and getting £2.20 per kg I'm getting on average half a kg of copper per compressor

Shred is at £35 per ton a drop of £5 in last week alone copper seems to be holding steady

Spot copper $2.05. Will it stay above $2.00? One can hope..

Originally Posted by nutpie

Spot copper $2.05. Will it stay above $2.00? One can hope..

J.R.R. Tolkien — 'Gandalf put his hand on Pippin's head. "There never was much hope," he answered." Just a fool's hope, as I have been told. "'

V/r HT1

Coppers on the up and up. Not much but it's trending upwards. This is good.

Originally Posted by NatureRecycleFlorida

I think scrap will be high when one of two things happen
china buys in bulk from us again less likely with their collapsing markets and industries at the moment.
USA re gears for domestic production along with other nations that had shipped factories overseas that would raise scrap prices for needed metals .

If the republicans/democrats get elected and start a trade war with china it will be cheaper to produce products a home than over seas .

Or, India gets into the 'game' as well. There's a lot of potential there, they can make money out of dirt.

And I really mean 'Dirt'....
Paper mache picture frames painted with the paint dregs from recycled aerosol paint cans and given a lacquer made from the recycled varnish that's on fridge compressor Copper windings...

But, while I do not think there will be a trade war with China, I think this will happen.
Quote [ it will be cheaper to produce products a home than over seas .] end quote

Our minimum wage is going up to NZ$15/hr, that's US$10/ hr.
Depending on the exchange rate its cheaper to employ in America. The quality control there is far far better than Chinas.

you want to know what copper is going to do, the scrap market will slowly creep up till the hoarders stop being idiots


read this article, These 10 mines will set the copper price for the next decade | MINING.com

or don't because the 8th column of the attached chart says all you need to know, the chilean mines are pulling Cu out of the ground for under $1.50/Lb USD .... So $2.00/Lb COMEX/LME is perfectly reasonable. your new peak copper price will happen withing the next couple of months, then it will settle and hold for the foreseeable future.

V/r HT1