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    Flirting with the Hypo last night....

    ...and he didn't like it! I was out at the bro's and SiL's last night planting some garden stuff, doing some scrap stuff that's harder to do at my house, and hanging with them. I ended up finishing watching a movie with them so didn't get back on the road to home (they live about 30 miles away from me) until around 10:30.



    South Dakota has a 80 mph speed limit on the Interstate highways outside of "urban" zones which are 65. I usually don't even push my old Buick Regal 75 but prefer around 72 or so. I had entered the "urban" zone and was doing exactly 70 as I passed someone and drove past a SD Highway Patrol car waiting in the area between the east and west bound lanes of I-90. I've driven past numerous Hypos dong 5 over the limit but as I passed this guy, I see him pull out. Now its about 10:50.

    He didn't lite me up right away but waited until he had caught up with me which took about a mile or so. Man, their spotlights are bright nowadays!! So he stopped me for going 5 over as well as the popular "light over license plate burnt out". The guy ended up being pretty cool. Gave me a warning for both infractions and didn't ask 50+ questions although he did ask a few like the standard, "what are you doing tonight?", "where are you coming from?", "where do they live?", and he asked me if I had been "target practicing lately?" (still have a few 12 gauge shells in the back window from earlier in the year). He didn't ask me why I had an old computer monitor in the back seat (from my stash out there to scrap at home) and if I had been drinking at all. Really surprised about that one because I had consumed 2 beers over the little over 3 hours I had been out at their place.

    So we both went on our merry ways, he with another metric or two to show he had been working and me with a bit of a humbled nature not to push the speed limit on the freeway. Who says Tuesday evenings are boring...??

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    You know what they say about opinions ..... ( maybe take this with a grain of salt ?)

    It just seems like there ought to be a better way of doing the job. They're putting themselves and the public at risk with late night traffic stops.

    It would be a lot simpler to sit in the U-turn areas and just light them up at random intervals if they're not out on a call. I've seen a variation on that done on I-95 when the average speed was starting to get to a point that's unsafe. The eighteen wheelers take the cue, bunch up, then gradually bring the speeds down to safer levels.

    With a ratio of eight to ten thousand people per one law enforcement officer there's no way he can effectively perform his function without the support of the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaRog View Post
    He didn't ask me why I had an old computer monitor in the back seat (from my stash out there to scrap at home) and if I had been drinking at all. Really surprised about that one because I had consumed 2 beers over the little over 3 hours I had been out at their place.
    What surprises me is that you only consumed 2 beers in 3 hours. I consume 2 beers in about 15 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    You know what they say about opinions ..... ( maybe take this with a grain of salt ?)

    It just seems like there ought to be a better way of doing the job. They're putting themselves and the public at risk with late night traffic stops.

    It would be a lot simpler to sit in the U-turn areas and just light them up at random intervals if they're not out on a call. I've seen a variation on that done on I-95 when the average speed was starting to get to a point that's unsafe. The eighteen wheelers take the cue, bunch up, then gradually bring the speeds down to safer levels.

    With a ratio of eight to ten thousand people per one law enforcement officer there's no way he can effectively perform his function without the support of the public.
    Most laws are more for revenue collection than safety. Red light cameras make once safe intersections into crash areas that generate money for the gov't.

    PS... What is a Hypo? I mean, I get that it is a cop, but why do you call it a hypo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nces2 View Post


    Most laws are more for revenue collection than safety. Red light cameras make once safe intersections into crash areas that generate money for the gov't.

    PS... What is a Hypo? I mean, I get that it is a cop, but why do you call it a hypo?
    I had to think about it but i think it's short for HIghway POlice ?

    Just an opinion but the cop probably thought there was something suspicious about Rog. Maybe it's cause he was driving an old car. He followed him for awhile and ran Rog's plates for any outstanding warrants or prior offenses. After he had a better idea of what he might be dealing with he turned on the blues. A license plate light out, and five miles over the speed limit,gave him probable cause to make the stop.

    Turns out he didn't find anything of interest.

    Writing him up with a warning establishes probable cause and covers his ass later in case Rog files a lawsuit against the state for invasion of privacy.
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    pjost- Nah, I can't do beer pounding anymore even if I wanted to. I'm almost as bad as many ladies, I look at an extra 300-400 calories and put on a couple of pounds...

    Calling the Highway Patrol "Hypos" must be a regional thing. Some people know exactly what I mean and others don't. Scrapph probably has the origins right, "HighwaY POlice".

    Scrapph- I think you, and some of the folks over on one of my trapping forums, have put too much thought into why he pulled me over. The 5 mph over especially when a driver is coming out of a 80 mph zone to 65 (I never drive the Regal much over 70) is all he needed. The light out over the plate was just icing on the cake. I'm sure he was angling for more, such as a DWI, but he was actually pretty cool about things. I've had law enforcement act much more aggressive in checking me out during traffic violation stops. There is absolutely nothing I could file against him even if he didn't write me up and I felt so inclined. I have no "privacy" not to get stopped if they've clocked me over the speed limit. What happens after the stop has more structure but unless its flagrant abuse of power, the LEOs hold all the cards...

    But I do agree with Scrapph and t00....'s that traffic stops generally are all in the eye of the beholder and interpretation of the individual officers and the governmental (local politicians/law enforcement/judicial) apparatus for various reasons. The average person just tries to stay out of its way...

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    Thanks alloy2 for the entertaining story!! Ask any long service OVR trucker or "Highway patrol" officer and they'll have stories of the crazy stuff people do while driving!

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    It's kind of an awkward situation when the LEO's are working in this area. A lot of the people here are pretty independent. The community tends to police itself. The "authorities" can be a bit overbearing sometimes. They are paid civil servants. If they come on too strong it's apt to lead into problems.

    The stereotypical nerdy hallway monitor type that niggles over little things like light bulbs or a few miles over the speed limit is going to alienate himself with the community pretty quickly.

    OUI's are somewhat negotiable. There are a lot of hard working functional alcoholics on the road. If they're not making problems for the community there's no reason to make problems for them.

    One of my neighbors was ex Detroit PD. Back when he was on the job he had this uncanny instinct for catching burglars in the act. That never left him even after he was discharged from service. Once a cop always a cop. He's not with us anymore, but it used to be that he would have a few beers, toke up, then cruise the area. He knew his limit so sometimes he would have somebody drive for him. It's kinda sad when you think about it but he wasn't hurting anybody.

    On another side of the coin my BIL was a long time drinking man. He had a long history of getting mouthy when he drank. If you didn't handle him the right way he would get combative. I don't know what happened, but one night he crossed paths with the LEO's and they busted him up real bad. It's not like it wasn't richly deserved but a professional would have never done that. Now, he's disabled for life. The state settled the lawsuit for millions of dollars, he's sitting pretty on a pile of cash, and is still an ass when he drinks.

    Could tell you a lot of different stories about how things got out of hand.

    They've got their job to do, but if it feels like they're crowding you up it's not a terrible thing to request that they back off. The average working stiff that's just minding his own business and not bothering anybody should never be made to feel that he's being dominated by his servant ????

    This is a job that involves working with all kinds of people. Good social skills are important. It sounds like you ran into one of the good ones the other night Rog. That's a good thing !
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    Bet your goat can't do this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    I had to think about it but i think it's short for HIghway POlice ?
    It's a South Dakota thing to call HP's HYPOs. I moved to SD from North Dakota. We never said "HYPO" in ND. Also in SD they call Beef Tips "Chislick". Never heard of Chislick until I moved here. And one more thing about SD vs. ND: They don't throw down as much salt on the roads in the wintertime as ND does. ND is also much more "business friendly" than SD. On the other hand, SD does not have state income tax. ND does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    ( grins ) Duly goated.

    Sorry ....can't help it .... just have to see if i can get your goat.

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    Rog - I didn't realize life in the "Dakotas" could be so exciting, be careful "life in the fast lane" can catch up with you faster than you and your Buick want to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    Sigh... For the lonely nights, Hobo, when the Mrs. is out of town....


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    Quote Originally Posted by pjost View Post
    It's a South Dakota thing to call HP's HYPOs. I moved to SD from North Dakota. We never said "HYPO" in ND. Also in SD they call Beef Tips "Chislick". Never heard of Chislick until I moved here. And one more thing about SD vs. ND: They don't throw down as much salt on the roads in the wintertime as ND does. ND is also much more "business friendly" than SD. On the other hand, SD does not have state income tax. ND does.
    You know your stuff about the differences between ND and SD. It's obvious that you've lived both sides so you understand.

    Ummm ... it's good, but it's almost too much information to take in all in one post. Maybe break it up into a number of smaller bite sized pieces over a number of posts ?

    Seems there was a thread on it somewhere last year but i've forgotten the details.

    Something about a Goat, a boot on it's two hind legs, a piece of rope around it's neck, and attempting to push it off a cliff ?

    Or was that a sheep ?

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    pjost- Yep, similar climate and environment, similar immigrants who settled it, and similar Native American folks but different states. Funny how that works out, geography matters but so does history.

    My dad grew up in the epicenter of "chislic" so even though I never lived in Hutchinson County, I've known chislic all my life. I've ate a lot of deer and antelope venison cubed up and cooked as chislic but pan fried is never as good as deep-fat fried. My bedroom town steakhouse and the racing sports bar both make some pretty mean beef chislic. Stop by sometime and I'll treat!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chislic

    Yep, bigburt, I pretty much keep my mouth shut when getting stopped for going a wee bit too fast. The ticket price for 1-10 over the speed limit is $125!! I can keep my mouth shut for that, a warning can go to a full citation in a hurry if I guy wants to have an attitude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    Or was that a sheep ?

    Sheep = Velcro gloves....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    I had to think about it but i think it's short for HIghway POlice ?

    Just an opinion but the cop probably thought there was something suspicious about Rog. Maybe it's cause he was driving an old car. He followed him for awhile and ran Rog's plates for any outstanding warrants or prior offenses. After he had a better idea of what he might be dealing with he turned on the blues. A license plate light out, and five miles over the speed limit,gave him probable cause to make the stop.

    Turns out he didn't find anything of interest.

    Writing him up with a warning establishes probable cause and covers his ass later in case Rog files a lawsuit against the state for invasion of privacy.
    Now that I see it, it makes perfect sense. Thanks.

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    [QUOTE=eesakiwi;268418]Sheep = Velcro gloves....[/QUOT



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