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    Electric Starter MTD Snowblower

    Previous owner was heavy on the starter button, burned out the armature and melted the carbon brushes into the plastic holders.

    Got a deal on this snowblower otherwise it wouldn't have come home with me, found another 110 volt starter at the landfill with broken mounting tabs that otherwise worked.



    Drilled out the spot welds from both starter mounting brackets the using the MIg spot welded to good bracket onto the landfill starter. The copper fields are a fair distance from the shell case, thought I may have to quickly toss a wet rag onto my welds to cool them off.

    Everything worked out fine, I now have a snow blower to sell.

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    Single or two stage?
    I'm trying to rebuild one with parts from two scrap donors. Got the broken auger gearbox out of one donor and the gears are still good but they need to go into the gearbox that is in good shape minus the stripped out gears and box full of shavings. Already rewound the pullstart and rebuilt the carb and made a rope coil to turn the chute that's gears are all stripped as well as lengthening the chute turn control to avoid bending over to turn the handle. This is all to save me from buying a $500 machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHscrapman View Post
    Single or two stage?
    I'm trying to rebuild one with parts from two scrap donors. Got the broken auger gearbox out of one donor and the gears are still good but they need to go into the gearbox that is in good shape minus the stripped out gears and box full of shavings. Already rewound the pullstart and rebuilt the carb and made a rope coil to turn the chute that's gears are all stripped as well as lengthening the chute turn control to avoid bending over to turn the handle. This is all to save me from buying a $500 machine.
    It's a 30 inch two stage, if I were to keep it would change out the Tecumseh engine for another brand that starts in cold weather.

    With todays technology I'm finding that the brass gears are no longer being hogged out on a gear machine but rather being hydraulically pressed and formed using powdered metallurgy then heat treating. I do not have much faith in this new technology albeit it's here to stay.

    To prolong the life of your refurbished snowblower, at the end of the season I would drain and flush the gear case then refill with new lube. You'll be surprised at the crap that comes out, bunch of brass fillings.


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    Same thing here 2 stage 30 in with a 5hp Tecumseh engine. This one built in 82 (same distaste for most newer manufacturing) no electric start but it could be added has the setup for one.
    This is a home machine I wouldn't run Tecumseh in a work machine for winter. Their contractor grade lawnmower engines on the other hand I really like, heavy duty and well built with basic maintenance they run forever. You have a preference for gear lube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHscrapman View Post
    You have a preference for gear lube?
    Lube now that's a can of worms that will generate plenty of opinions.

    OBDC code said timing was off the mechanic informed the distributor was worn out so we had him change the distributor, timing the engine is done via the OBDC reader. Engine has to be at operating temperature, the thermostat stuck in the open position would not allow the temperature to rise so I changed it then took the truck back to have it timed.

    GM recommends 5/30 oil which changes to the heavier viscosity at engine operating temp, with that faulty thermostat the engine during our cold Canadian winter months never did reach operating temp so in essence we were running a 5 weight oil which in my opinion contributed to premature wear.

    Changing the distributor is a band aid repair as the gear on the camshaft will have similar wear.

    Your snowblower with worm gear drive would be considered a low pressure contact drive, if your going to flush the gear case yearly then refill with new lube choose a cheap one.

    Trucks and heavy equipment differentials and transmissions would be considered high pressure contact gears and would require the appropriate lubricant to withstand pressure exerted between the gear teeth and heat.
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    I stand corrected the snowblower drive requires an extreme pressure lubricant.

    1. Citgo EP Compound 90/AGMA 5 EP
    2. Mobil Gear 630 (AGMA 4 & 5 EP)
    3. Any AGMA 4 EP Qualified Lube"

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    I too inherited one last fall. 30" MTD with a 10hp Tecumseh. My neighbor used it for his snow removal business.

    Started easy and ran, but wouldn't do anything but idle since the butterfly shaft in the carb was seized. Mower shop told him the carb wasn't able to be saved (of course they wanted to sell him a new one at $140)
    He pushed it into my yard and said scrap away.

    After working at it with some good Berkebile penetrating oil I was able to get it freed up. Took it apart and cleaned everything, put it back together and now I have a free snowblower.
    It has the 110v starter, but the switch is a bit funky and the bendix doesn't seem to want to engage. But it's no big deal since the carb primer works great and it's easy to pull over.

    Total amount invested: a couple of hours of my time and $3 for new carb and intake bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDC76 View Post
    I too inherited one last fall. 30" MTD with a 10hp Tecumseh. My neighbor used it for his snow removal business.

    Started easy and ran, but wouldn't do anything but idle since the butterfly shaft in the carb was seized. Mower shop told him the carb wasn't able to be saved (of course they wanted to sell him a new one at $140)
    He pushed it into my yard and said scrap away.

    After working at it with some good Berkebile penetrating oil I was able to get it freed up. Took it apart and cleaned everything, put it back together and now I have a free snowblower.
    It has the 110v starter, but the switch is a bit funky and the bendix doesn't seem to want to engage. But it's no big deal since the carb primer works great and it's easy to pull over.

    Total amount invested: a couple of hours of my time and $3 for new carb and intake bolts.
    Most carburetor issues are ethanol induced, ethanol blended gasolines should be outlawed.

    As a parts and carburetor cleaner, I have an 5 liter ultrasonic cleaner on my wish list.

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    Alloy2, its Sunday afternoon and I learned something once again. I was unaware of powder metal pressure cast parts. Thanks for the education and the video. 73, Mike
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Old man calls em corn carbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    Alloy2, its Sunday afternoon and I learned something once again. I was unaware of powder metal pressure cast parts. Thanks for the education and the video. 73, Mike
    Your welcome Mike, below the broken worm gear from a high end Kubota snowblower is a perfect example of how we're being ripped off. In my day and age you could replace the worm gear as they were machined with a keyway, from the picture you can tell the gear was manufactured in place onto the shaft with the odd looking hub.

    The hub serves two purposes, keeps the gear from slipping on the shaft but due to the odd configuration of the hub you can not just remove a worn out worm or replace a broken worm gear your forced to purchase the whole assembly.

    The worm gear failure also destroyed the gear housing, fortunately it was not my Kubota snowblower although I did have the same model - you noticed that the latter part of that statement is pas tense. I sold the Orange tractor with the blower.

    You can bet that the less expensive MTD product line uses a lot of powdered metallurgy parts, and this is why my snowblower is going up for sale. You want good equipment you have to find stuff manufactured during the 1960's early 70's.




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    Snowblower? I'd just move to Texas if I were you!

    EDIT: I kid... it does snow here sometimes. Here is a pic from our big storm last year:

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    Quote Originally Posted by auminer View Post
    Snowblower? I'd just move to Texas if I were you!

    EDIT: I kid... it does snow here sometimes. Here is a pic from our big storm last year:

    I have more frost inside my freezer than your showing for a Texas snowstorm.

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