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    China this just the beginning

    In a July 18 filing with the World Trade Organization (WTO), China’s Ministry of Environmental Protection said recovered mixed paper – as well as recycled PET, PE, PVC and PS, textiles and vanadium slag – would be banned from import into the country later this year.



    What will happen to shredder waste? Will China stop buying the fluff? A scrap yard around here pays more for "clean sheet iron" then sheet iron. I feel this is only the beginning of what they will not import due to "trash".

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    It might be part of the political game with a 20% tariff proposed on Chinese metal imported into the U.S. and banning Chinese ships from loading metal at U.S. coasts and going to International Waters to refine it before returning it to the U.S. If these two changes take place, China will not be able to afford the "fluff".
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    May ban copper imports as well.. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1AB0T6

    The recycling branch of the China NonFerrous Metals Industry Association said on Tuesday that it had received a notice that at the end of 2018 imports of scrap metal including wire, motors and bulk scrap metal will be prohibited, according to a copy of an informal Association message sent to members of its WeChat group reviewed by Reuters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    ...going to International Waters to refine it before returning it to the U.S.
    Is that a thing, floating metal refineries?

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    Ouch. I don't see that going well for anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakage View Post
    Is that a thing, floating metal refineries?
    No it is not a thing. Its a reference to a large shell game. Making it look like something was manufactured in the US when it was not.

    When I was driving truck I would deliver various steel products. At one time I was to deliver some steel I beams to a customer and on the paper work it specified that the I beams could not come from the XYZ company. So I went to where the pick up was and saw that the I beams had tags noting they were manufactured by the XYZ company. The tags were removed prior to loading and the paperwork reflected it the I beams were manufactured by the RTS company.

    Same product but the paperwork lies. Mike
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    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Well things are changing at the scrapyards around here, small electric motors are now just copper content, no longer can cord ends be copper content (now shred) and coax back to shred feed as well! I haven't tried to sell other low value items like ballasts or Christmas lights in awhile I think they will all be shred food again...

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    So they have a smelting SHIP!!!! I want one of those.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    It might be part of the political game with a 20% tariff proposed on Chinese metal imported into the U.S. and banning Chinese ships from loading metal at U.S. coasts and going to International Waters to refine it before returning it to the U.S. If these two changes take place, China will not be able to afford the "fluff".

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    Recycling bottleneck for plastics and paper being felt already. https://www.bna.com/looming-chinese-...-n57982088001/

    The list in full with commodity codes of what China is no longer importing

    Products covered (HS or CCCN where applicable, otherwise national tariff heading. ICS numbers may be provided in addition, where applicable): HS: Plastic waste from living sources: 3915100000; 3915200000; 3915300000; 3915901000; 3915909000; Vanadium slag: 2619000021; 2619000029; 2620999011; 2620999019; Unsorted waste paper: 4707900090; Waste textile materials: 5103109090; 5103209090; 5103300090; 5104009090; 5202100000; 5202910000; 5202990000; 5505100000; 5505200000; 6310100010; 6310900010.
    Slag, dross (other than granulated slag), scalings and other waste from the manufacture of iron or steel. (HS 2619)
    Ash and residues (other than from the manufacture of iron or steel), containing arsenic, metals or their compounds. (HS 2620)
    Waste, parings and scrap, of plastics. (HS 3915)
    Waste of wool or of fine or coarse animal hair, including yarn waste but excluding garnetted stock. (HS 5103)
    Garnetted stock of wool or of fine or coarse animal hair. (HS 5104)
    Cotton waste (including yarn waste and garnetted stock). (HS 5202)
    Waste (including noils, yarn waste and garnetted stock) of man-made fibres. (HS 5505)
    Used or new rags, scrap twine, cordage, rope and cables and worn out articles of twine, cordage, rope or cables, of textile materials. (HS 6310)
    Other, including unsorted waste and scrap (HS 470790).
    https://www.mrw.co.uk/latest/update-...021778.article
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