Is Life turning out the way you planned?

Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream

I was putting some thought into just WHY people were living the way that they were and believing what they believed to be fact and truth.

I spend most of my time, about 95% or maybe even more these BU$Y daze by myself. I have always preferred my own company as I find it relaxing and comfortable most of the time. I don't like stress enough that I do my best to avoid such situations.

One thing that I didn't like about the military is that I was forced to associate with people that I would rather not share the same space with. I have no interest in meeting most famous and popular people as I realize the illusion much like I realize that santa, the easter bunny and tooth farie are just simple illusions put upon children to program them with what their realities will most likely become.

I find that I'm very different then most in what I believe and don't.

I must be doing something right as I'm living my childhood dreams and so much beyond what I could conceive at the age of 4.

So how are your lives going and what are the main problems keeping you from your childhood dreams? Or have you achieved them comfortable enough?

Was your planning realistic and sound?

Or did you mostly listen to others that were selling dreams on a bargain?

You get what you invest in and pay for it seems.

I think we all have that thing we were meant to do in life. Some folks call it your true will.

Some people discover their true will at an early age like you did. Many others don't .... and just wander through life with no particular direction or purpose.

You just seem like a Henry David Thoreau kind of guy to me. That's why i mentioned his name to you a year or two ago. Figured you might pick up on it and discover a kindred spirit.

He was kind of a hermit. Spent a lot of time living in his own head. Intelligent & philosophical. Maybe not all that good with other people. Generally critical of people & society with an air of superiority.

It's a lonely life ... especially in the dead of winter.

If i could offer a suggestion ? Try to get out more even if it does cause you social anxiety. Like it or hate it ... we all need social contact with others. It's just a basic human need like food & water.

The internet is a poor substitute.

I believe some should read slower what ChildhoodDream has written over the years. To me he seems to be a very happy and content person, not some old hermit with long hair and nails pissing in mason jars....

Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream;321974[B

]I was putting some thought into just WHY people were living the way that they were and believing what they believed to be fact and truth.[/B]

Hills: There really is no absolute truth CD. It's largely subjective.

For example: Let's say that someone was suffering from a mental illness with delusional features. Let's say they believed that rocks were talking to them. You and i might say that this simply is not true. I'll tell ya though ... it's very real to the person that hears the rocks talking.

Lol ... who knows ... maybe rocks do talk and the rest of us just can't hear them.



One thing that I didn't like about the military is that I was forced to associate with people that I would rather not share the same space with. I have no interest in meeting most famous and popular people as I realize the illusion much like I realize that santa, the easter bunny and tooth farie are just simple illusions put upon children to program them with what their realities will most likely become.

LMAO ... you went into the military ... i went to High School. That really sucked. Too bad for us.

Now ... you and i both know that we all put our pants on one leg at a time. All those famous & popular people are just people in extraordinary situations. Many are flawed just like all the rest of us. Some famous folks are very flawed. It must suck to have all your dirty laundry hung out in the tabloids. Eventually it all evens out. Death comes to the greatest and the least of us eventually. We're all equal in that regard.

As for hero worship ? Some folks are leaders and some folks followers. There's nothing wrong with being a devoted follower if that is your true will. We're not all cut out to be doing the same thing ... you see ?

I find that I'm very different then most in what I believe and don't.

Well yeah ... you march to the beat of your own drummer. There's nothing special about that. There are plenty of folks just like yourself.

I must be doing something right as I'm living my childhood dreams and so much beyond what I could conceive at the age of 4.

I dunno man ... it just seems like you just decided to sit this one out. Not seeing much in the way of personal growth & development over the years.Can't help but wonder if something terrible might have happened to you between birth and age 4. (You might not even remember it.) Were you adopted ? What was your mother like ? The early years are when your personality is formed.

So how are your lives going and what are the main problems keeping you from your childhood dreams? Or have you achieved them comfortable enough?

Me ... ahh ... i've pretty much achieved everything that i was instinctively drawn to. I'm well enough satisfied with very few regrets. Now it's on to the next stage in life. What fun ... there are all these new personal challenges to contend with.

Was your planning realistic and sound?

I didn't plan. I just put my faith is spirit and blindly hopped into the wild & tumultuous river of life. It's been a helluva ride with all kinds of unexpected twists & turns. I do my best when running full out with a pack of hungry wolves nipping at my heels. Complacency = death.

Or did you mostly listen to others that were selling dreams on a bargain?

Well ... we're getting back to the leaders vs. followers thing again. Most folks are followers by nature. This is their true will. They need to be told where to go and what to do. There's absolutely nothing right or wrong about this.

See ... i think this really is more your problem. You look down on people like that. You seem to think there's something wrong with them because they aren't like you. That's pretty self involved. Of course ... children are completely self involved. They're off in their own little world most of the time. Eventually ... they grow beyond that and they learn to love. At first ... it's a selfish and possessive love. It evolves to a love where the other person is just as important to you as you are to yourself. From there ... it grows to a love where the other person ( your child ) is more important to you than yourself. At out fullest human potential ... we evolve to achieve a state of love without limit. Some folks call this a state of self actualization.

You get what you invest in and pay for it seems.

My dad always used to say that you only get out ... what you put into a thing.

If you're selfish and don't put anything out ... nothing of any value ever returns to you.

I think he was right on this.

Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream

I'm NOT uncomfortable. It is YOU that are uncomfortable with me.

That is the Truth of the matter if weighed and measured with honest scales and "rulers".

I have a GREAT understanding of myself. It's others that I'm trying to understand.

A bit like trying to understand creatures from another realm.

Your superstations and rituals are blinding you from seeing and understanding the real and true me.

I can see you and have a basic understanding of you, but I haven't much of a clue as to WHY you choose what you choose on a more deep thinking level.

I'm wondering just WHAT makes you tick simply put.

Me ... i'm just a student of human nature. Always have been. I'm kind of a solitary. I do my best work alone ... not really a team player. I'm fairly good at most anything i choose to set my hand to. I'm currently working with people in service to my community. It seems like an honorable way to finish out the remainder of my adult working life ... even though the job is a rather humble one.

You know ... you work with people long enough ... you develop the ability to size them up pretty quickly. Behavior patterns repeat and people generally fall into different categories. There are times when i'm working with hundreds of people a day. There's nothing new under the sun. None of us are really all that unique although our delusions may have us convinced otherwise.

I take it that people are kind of a mystery for you. It's not so easy for you to relate to others ... so you prefer to keep to yourself ?

It would be all good and well except for the fact that you get kinda lonely sometimes ? I can see how that could be a problem for someone.

Think about it. What's one of the worst punishments in prison ?

They ship you off to solitary confinement and deprive you of the company of others.

It really is true ... no man is an island.

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Okay ... now you said that " it's a bit like trying to understand creatures from another realm."

Have you ever had any cognitive testing done ?

Let's say a fulla was deaf and you tried to describe the sound of music to him. He might be blind and you try to convince him that the sky is the color of blue. In either case ... the fulla just wouldn't be able to relate because the sound of music and the color of blue don't exist for him. It's a cognitive issue.

I've got a friend of over 40 years. Lol ... people have called him ass**** for as long as i've known him and probably long before. He's a great mechanic but he's not very good with people. It's quite possibly due to a high functioning form of autism called Asperger's Syndrome. He's completely lacking in the quality of empathy.

About 80 - 90% of human communication in real life social situations actually takes place on a non-verbal level. We read the cues on a subconscious level. I can certainly see why it would seem like a foreign language if you are deaf -or - blind to the cues. It might be a cognitive thing ... ya know ?

It's no big deal really. Especially if you are relatively happy in your solitary life.

Just food for thought if you are trying to unravel the mystery of why people do what they do.

I think we covered this before CD but let's give it one last try. There's the internal reality. That's the reality of the world going on between your ears as you perceive it to be. There's the external reality of the world around you. You might call that the external construct or reality.

As long as your internal reality and the reality of the world around you are relatively in synch .... you should be fairly functional.

If the two realities start to distance themselves ... you become progressively more dysfunctional. It makes it very difficult to do things like hold a job and maintain interpersonal relationships. You miss out on a lot of the good things that life can potentially offer like friends, a devoted wife, a family, and a challenging & rewarding work experience. The sex is good too !

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Look ... i'm experienced enough to know that you can't talk people out of their crazy. That's most especially so when they cop an attitude and declare that it couldn't possibly be MY problem. It's the world that's messed up. ( That's a defense mechanism called denial. )

The main reason i suggested cognitive testing is because it's based in science. Science is all about careful step by step reasoned thinking and verification of repeatable phenomena.

I'll tell ya man ... science isn't perfect but it's about as close as you'll ever come to the objective truth of a thing.

From what i understand ... you were a vet that was honorably discharged. You're eligible for Veteran's benefits ? I know that your are relatively happy with your life just the way it is but you could use a little help with the social aspect of things ? They might be able to help you out with that ... ya know ?

It's really up to you ... it's your life to live as you see fit as long as you're not bothering anyone.

I really don't have much more to offer you CD. Near as i can tell ... there really are no absolute truths. Best you can do is what you think is the most probable thing. Even at that ... you have to keep an open mind because something new might come along that will rock your world & turn everything upside down.

I can see why you're hiding out in your little clay pot. That's what most people do. They cling tenaciously to their beliefs.

You can offer a doorway but they will never step through.

Only got a couple of minutes this morning so i'll have to make it quick.

I think that it all boils down to the meaning of life. Near as i can tell ... the only possible reason for us all being here is for the growth and development if the spirit within. It's that tiny little spark of the divine trapped within each of us that yearns to return to the source.

Near as i can tell ... we're both getting near the end of days. Maybe we got another 20 years left ? What happens after that is anyone's guess. I suppose we will find out after we have passed through that doorway.

I will say one thing ... it's only the spark that survives. All the rest ... that little clay pot and all the thoughts will cease to exist. It will be as though we never were.

I think you gotta walk in two worlds. Fully immerse yourself in the mundane human experience. Additionally .... keep it all in context and remember that in the grand scheme of G-d & the cosmos .... none of this really matters.

< chuckles > The dalhi llama walked into a burger joint ... stepped up to the counter and said ... " I'll have one with everything. "

Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream

You haven't a clue about the inner mind vs the outer world.

The whole world is connected in many ways. I could tell you things that I have experienced that would have you thinking I was telling fibs.

Ummmm ... with all of the talk of going deep within the mind and hitting the lottery ... i'm wondering if you might have discovered your connecting link.

It's no big deal really. We all have that ability latent within us. It's mostly the noise of the outside world and our internal dialogue that isolates us from it.

Can you open the sixth chakra at will ?

Originally Posted by hills

Ummmm ... with all of the talk of going deep within the mind and hitting the lottery ... i'm wondering if you might have discovered your connecting link.

It's no big deal really. We all have that ability latent within us. It's mostly the noise of the outside world and our internal dialogue that isolates us from it.

Can you open the sixth chakra at will ?

There's much more to you than i had ever given credit.