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When you have to install a furnace in a crawl space and find the flooring guy covered the larger access hole by the furnace...So you have to make the smaller access in a closet larger and dig out the dirt below to get the new one down there, then drag it across the crawl space to get it to it's new home.
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I sure hope you were able to charge them for the extra work.Originally Posted by KzScrapper
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LOL ...bonehead management strikes again Kz ?
The jobs boss is supposed to get the order of operations right in order to keep the job running smoothly. That means scheduling the subcontractors to come in at the right time. The sensible thing would have been to install the furnace and then close up the hole. He got it bass ackwards.
Of course .... the job boss is kinda like the guy conducting the symphony orchestra. He has to know what he's doing ... but ... all of the instruments in the orchestra have to come in and do their part at just the right time. It's a team effort. It's beautiful music when it's done right. It's a discordant cacophony of sounds if one the musicians loses the beat.
Some of the job boss's do have a mean streak. If a guy doesn't do his part when he's supposed to .... he will be made to suffer. It's a rough trade.
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When you pay for an item and it stops working correctly and you can't get the problem repaired >> System working right
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I can't imagine not being able to eat bacon. I don't eat a lot of it but when I do I'm in heaven.
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The furnace install was to replace an existing furnace that had died and yup...hit them with extra charges.
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Myself today for not paying attention to the forecast (bone dry at home, snowing at work) and taking the 20 year old 4x2 pickup to work when I have a late model AWD sedan with newer tires, heated seats, traction control, heated wheel and remote start sitting in the garage.
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[QUOTE=hills;293905"I was sorely tempted to go pee on his tires."[/QUOTE]
Me, I'd pee on his seat and tell him I did it and why.
If I get to Maine I'll gladly get a fill up and face to face meet. 73, Mike
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Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked
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I've been mulling it over. It bugs me that the guy with a college degree up in the office doesn't seem to know how to run a business ... most definitely not a gas business. He's kind of a loser. Goin' on 40 and still living in his parent's basement. One of those educated idiot types with a sense of entitlement.
I'm gonna bide my time. He will get his comeuppance.
See ... i showed him how to get things back on the right track ... but ... i didn't tell him everything he needs to know.
If he insists on being one-way with his people and not taking care of their most basic needs ... he will lose their support for his leadership position.
It all comes out in the wash. He won't be able to keep his job if he doesn't deserve it.
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Freezing rain!
Power went out at 7:30 this morning. It's a little chilly inside but not to bad.
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My wife brought a kerosene heater from Maine when she moved here. When we married, she brought it out when it started getting cold. That thing puts out the heat like you would not believe. We use it almost exclusively for heat as $30 of kero will keep us comfy all winter like $50/mo worth of electricity. If nothing else, get a kero heater as a backup.
For those not familiar with kerosene heaters they use the air in the room and exhaust back into the room. Asphyxiation does get folks who use them unwisely. 73, Mike
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They recommend leaving a window partly open to get a bit of air change with the kero heaters.
Propane is a better ( and safer) choice. It's a lot cleaner too. Just run it off a #20 cylinder ( BBQ tank). Keep the tank about ten feet away from the appliance and you'll do just fine for emergency use.
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Ouch.
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One of the things that tweeks me more than anything is going to a store (Home Depot seems to be where it happens most, but it is where I shop the most) to get something you know they have and not finding it where you expect to find it. That is an annoyance, but what gets me is when you ask someone there where to find it and they answer with an absolute, "No". So I will describe the item more carefully and tell them I am sure they carry what I am looking for. They say "no, we do not carry that or it would be right here. (finger point)", not "I don't know" or "let me ask someone else". So, I wind up going off to look for the item and eventually find what I am looking for exactly as I had described. This happened the other day when I was looking for wood nail on weather seal for a door with the little rubber seal attached to the side. I told them I had looked in the rack with a lot of the weatherseal products and they took me back there. "This is where it would be."<---- that is a period there. " have NEVER seen that here."<--- another period. Ok' I say and go off to look myself again. I go back to wood products with moldings and jambs and baseboard and lo and behold, there is exactly what I was looking for exactly as I had described. I took the item back to the person who had told me, "No", and showed them that I had found the item I was looking for and suggested that perhaps they should familiarize themselves with items that had just been added to the sales floor. I offered to take them back to where I found it so they would know in the future where this new item had been placed away from all the items they were familiar with.
It doesn't really bother me when it is something completely outside the realm of usual, but the was was weatherseal on wood that you put on a door frame. You probably know what I was looking for. Another time it was the 1/8th inch black PVC pneumatic control line for sprinklers and other pressure switches... "No, we do not carry that." He actually had the balls to follow me as I looked myself and told me he had already let me know they didn't have it. When I found the spool, I went back and showed him and he told me "That wasn't what I was looking for." Another time in Winn Dixie, I asked where I could find canned ham.... A canned f#cking ham, for Christ sake.... "No, we don't sell that here." said he who was probably as pink and hairless as the canned ham I was looking for!
That is the crap that gets under my skin the most.... Except for maybe people with ugly toes.
Last edited by t00nces2; 09-25-2019 at 08:33 AM.
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I've run into the same thing at big box as well. If you're not careful ... their lack of knowledge can screw up your project.
In fairness:
It is a big store. There might be 100 k. items on the floor at any given time. The jobs don't pay very well and it's set up so that anybody with the IQ of a dog can perform the task. A store clerk might know the items in the particular aisle that they stock and have absolutely no idea what else is in the store. That's oftentimes the case.
The trick is to know what you don't know and freely admit that to the customer.
Next ... you take the customer to somebody on the floor who would know and hand off to them.
That way ... the customer's needs are being attended to from beginning to end.
Honestly, this is a lot of extra work. The jobs don't pay well and a lot of employees are disaffected from their jobs. They don't really care. It's a lot quicker and easier to say that we don't have that and get rid of the customer.
It's what you get when you buy the cheapest thing ?
The company i work for, among other things, runs a smaller neighborhood hardware store. You pay a little more but the gals on the floor know their stock. Little or no idea of what a 12 penny galvanized nail is correctly used for ... but they can generally tell you what aisle it's in. That's considered " good enough " by company standards.
Our grocery is a little different. You generally walk the customer to the item they're asking about. If you don't know ... you find one of the other employees that does know and leave that customer in their care. You pay a little more at our store but you get better customer service as well.
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WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MY UGLY TOES!
t00nces2 YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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I have found that if you go online to homedepot they have everything right there....order it and pick up in store it forces the employee to go back and find your order and you just pick it up at front desk
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