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A gentlemen from the escrap event I did on Saturday, sent me an email regarding removing a 7 person hot tub from his back yard that is currently sitting on a conceret slab.
My wife's uncle and I both know how to disconnect it, and I have him, my brother in law, his friend, and myself for the labor to lift it and carry it about 50 to 100 yards to my trailer.
Question is, what would you charge for this? Never have done one before, so not to sure what to charge.
I don't think I would do for anything less then $200.00
and that is if the >> carry it about 50 to 100 yards to my trailer. << Does not involve getting it over a fence or stairs
People always tell me I don't charge enough
The only money that I know of is the pump and heaters and some associated wire
You need to have a way to get rid of the rest of it
what I do is calculate how much for gas, then add what my time is worth and an approximation on time, then since you will have several people helping you how are you going to pay them? sometimes my help will work for food which is fine by me. I'm not sure how long this will take or how much you can get for it, I can imagine for four people doing that work it should be at least 100 bucks or more, start high then you can work out a price that works for you both
Well this one works. (forgot to mention that). Guy told me that he recent had lung surgery or something and doctor told him no more hot tub.
I can either sell it for a couple of hundred, but if no takers, then the landfill will take it as part of their recycling program. Anything that is not bio degradeable, gets recycled.
If I do, go that route, I will be taking off any metal related components for sure.
No, according to the picture, there is no stairs or fence to deal with.
$100 is definitely to low for this type of job.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog72
Since it works, my brother in law and his friend might want to take it, and that will be fine with me. When that happens, they usually help for free, and get the item for free.
Every job is different so it's tough to give you a solid number.
All labor costs + All supply costs + All transportation costs +Incidentals + Profit margin = Cost Is one way of looking at it.
id avoid a hot tub unless i already had a buyer for it, 90% of the weight is going to be fiberglass, insulation, wood and plastic. Not worth the work for $50 worth of wiring and motors. I
d charge $200 for removal if it is scrap. Free if its a nice one that works.
I usually sell myself short, don't know all that entails in dismantling safely either. just how I normally determine cost
Yeah, my cost for this either way is gas, labor, and potential of disposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by KzScrapper
No reason to avoid it, if it will make money. I just dont want to bid it higher than anyone else, but enough to make me and the other guys a decent profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jghilino
I totally understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog72
George, haven't we discussed this before? I am the hot tub expert. In fact I have a video on my you tube channel. Go to youtube and put "burly guys hot tub" in the search box and my video will come up.
The first summer I did 42 hot tubs. The second summer I did a similar amount. THIS year I have already done 20 as my hot tub google ranking seems to have taken off.
And I get $350.00 for every one of them, if not more.
I charge extra if the hot tub is "encumbered" in any way...got a gazebo over it, etc.
And DO NOT fall into the trap of doing a recessed hot tub for the same price. Then it
becomes EXCAVATION!!! At least another $100 for a recessed tub.
Sometimes they're easy, sometimes they're very difficult, as some are made MUCH more sturdy than others!
If someone gives you the old "but so and so said they'd do it cheaper" line, use my response to it:
"Are they insane? If they're going to do it for that price you should hurry and hire them before they wise up! Oh, and make sure they're insured." For some reason the insured line always gets their attention.
Oh, and George? Cut them up. WAY easier.
$280 seems like a good starting point..I got that last week for a POS..
Depends on how nice you are..since someone is already taking it for personal use, you could go much lower..
Your pricing is about what I was thinking, but didnt know if I was to low or to high or just right. I dont recall if we ever discussed hot tubs or not, but none the less, I will check out the youtube video (thanks).Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
I am nice and always provide good service. However, business is business, and while some items you can go real low own, you don't want to bid to low to be nice to get the job, and then come out in the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by scrappy888
fyi the greenboard in the contral panal is a mid grade board
The guy across the street from me traded his working hot tub for yard work. Everyone was happy with that deal.
Reminds me of one iv removed from a wet room in a basment a couple years ago, complete nightmare, 7hrs, and a pack of sawzall blades, tryin to cut thoses hoses that are spray foamed in vibrating around.....never again
I always see Craigslist ads looking for hot tubs and have heard there is a market for used ones. I have done a few demo type things for the scrap and learned the hard way that scrap removal is free and demo is not. Now if hot tubs are made from copper and sheds are made from brass I would do for scrap other wise a removal fee is necessary.
Burly guy great video and a catchy tune to boot. Shows a professional job and proves if you use your head you don't need to be all that burly. Thanks for the link Jon.
200 if its cut up and on the curb --- 250 if u cut it up and its in the back yard --- 300 if we have to wheel it out onto our trailers ..
the pumps from a hot tub should be worth alot more than scrap if they work, 5hp motors going for $150 each, the smaller motors are going for $50-$100 each
burly, mind me asking how you get 350 a piece? is that what you charge or is there enough scrap value in them to make up some of that number? I see free ones all the time but pass them up because I dont see there being much value in them
This is definitely going to be a semi easy job, compared to most. However, it is going to take me and 3 other guys who can lift 150+ to carry it. Therefore, I will charge the guy about $350 to $400.
He can either take it or not.
Thanks to all for the input.
Burly, great video btw.
Thats one I have to learn I guess. Have you ever successfully sold these? I've been scrapping them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jghilino
i have never done a hot tub, i dont have a truck or the dumpster to dispose of it in
but just look at the ebay completed listings for 5hp pump spa , they are going for $150 an the low end with a very high percentage selling, i guarantee if you put them on there at $139 with free shipping they will sell out in less than a week
I tell them that's what the price is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog72
Not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything but it really is as simple as that. There are some that balk, and some that continue to shop around, but for the most part I get them.
I think there are 3 reasons I get them.
1. I ask questions that show I know what I'm doing.
2. I'm sure of myself when I talk to them. I don't stutter, stammer, or ask "Is that okay?" I sound professional and I say "Standard pricing for hot tub removal in that condition in your area is $350.00."
3. I have a professional looking video that shows them what they can expect with me.
By the way, here are the questions that make you sound intelligent to the customer. (Everybody who uses them please send me 5 bucks each!)Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
1. Is it drained?
2. Is it disconnected from power and water?
3. How big is it? (I really don't care, they're all about the same amount of work.)
4. Is it recessed into a deck? (Very important, the recessed ones can add hours to your labor costs.)
5. Is it encumbered in any way? You'd be surprised how many people build roofs and gazebos over their hot tubs.)
6. What is access like? Can I drive up to it? Any sprinkler systems or septic fields I need to be concerned about?
My most expensive hot tub to date was recessed AND under a gazebo and I charged em 700 bucks.
And they were happy to pay it.
We just passed the milestone of 100 hot tubs removed this week. 42 the first summer, a similar number last summer, and THIS summer we have already surpassed 20. I'm sure the video has something to do with it.
Hey George, Good luck with this, shouldnt be too hard. I did one for $200 and took the wires blower and heater out to sell. Don't try to lift using the brute force method. Always use a furniture dolly with big wheels. You never want to try to lift all the weight at once. What we did was tip the spa on its side onto a furniture dolly and just wheel it out to my truck. So, hopefully it is on concrete and there are no stairs. I had to take a gate off so, it could fit out the back yard but, wasnt too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeB
people ask how I get cars, just as above with the exception of the video, I don't guess its ever too late :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys