It snowed some last night....
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It snowed some last night....
Lucky they missed the pole.
Winter driving must not be one of strong suits..
;)
Sirscrapalot - Snowbank + Spin = lol.
You just can't make this stuff up !
It takes mad skilz to get that rear passenger wheel off the ground like that.
easy, 2 wd w / 6-700 lbs sand and drive slowly! :)
I load transformers in the back of mine in a box when its needed
I used to put a full 4'x8' sheet of 1/2" steel plate in the box of my 2wd pickup for the winter. Bolted it down, though. Didn't want it to slice thru the cab if I had an accident!!
Jon.
I like to put about 800lbs of sand bags in the trunk of my front wheel drive car.
Works good! ;)
Man I hope that's a joke......Quote:
Originally Posted by pjost
Twenty miles per hour is the golden rule for me. As long as i stay under that speed i can drive through most anything safely.
I wonder if it was the student or the teacher that put the car in the ditch.
Those that can't .... teach ? :cool:
Watch out, Scrappah!! I'm sure Patriot would have something to say to you about that last sentence!! ;>)
In the trunk of the front wheel drive car.....I get a laugh at those who don't understand the physics of where to put the weight... The other side of that is the people who put a couple of 15 lb sandbags over the rear axle in their pickup. Or still others who do the same with two--12" diameter rounds of firewood...again, probably totalling 15 lbs each... Gads, the HUGE increase in traction!!!
Jon.
Yes, that was my lame attempt at a joke hence the... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by smashing
Kids, don't try this at home.
Glad I bought a car with all wheel drive!
Don't know how much advertising is going to come out of this, most people just put out a sign.
Can't drive in snow? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrappah
Sirscrapalot - Bring it! - The Rock
I can teach you how to move through the snow on a horse faster than 20 mph. I cannot do it any faster than that, so I could not teach you how. By the way, if I was limited to that speed because of snow, the truck would not get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrappah
All kidding aside, regardless of who was driving, Morgan did not sleep well. I get stuck worst than that in the drive way and still have five miles to go to the paved county road, which is the third priority for plowing. Sometimes it pays to sleep in and stay at home.
I worked with someone who went one step further, it was cut to fit around the wheel wells and such. Said he could plow almost anything with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawmilleng
You don't need all wheel drive. I have three vehicles I drive mostly- an Audi A6 quattro, a Buick LeSabre (FWD), and a RWD Chevrolet pickup. Common sense, and you'll be fine. All wheel drive just gets you going. After that, you're on your own. The first vehicles in the ditches here are 4x4 Suburbans and Subarus. People think they're invincible.
What driving school offers near-new cars? I took mine in a 20 year old Taurus with over 250k miles. And, a lot of dents. :lol:
matador: "Now selling CRT winter traction weights. They're great, safe for the environment, and take up very little space!"
Yeah that was my thought. Teacher can't drive in snow and put the car in a ditch ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot
Gawd .... lesson 1 ought to be how to do power slides out in the middle of an abandoned parking lot somewhere. It gives you a good feel for how to recover when you're sliding out of control.
Besides .... it's wicked fun ! :)
I plowed the roads for years with a two wheel drive truck that had 20,000 lbs of sand sitting over the driven wheels. Four wheel drive is for pu**ies ! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by MattInTheHat
Matador speaks some basic truth....all wheel drive aint the end-all.
My taste of 2 wheel drive go-anywhere was with my old mans Volkswagen station wagon. It was one of the last rear engined air cooled volks. He had ice studs in the rear wheels and we could take it to some wicked places as teenagers are known to do. I'm still relieved today to know that I never screwed up and had to bring home a wrecked car!! The one that still sticks in my mind is when a buddy and I went booting out up an old logging road in the early winter. It had snowed and thawed and refroze, so the road was two tracks of ice not a whole lot wider than the car. We spun out on a steep uphill...couldn't go forward and were looking at backing down several hundred yards of dam slippery road. One side of the road was a cut bank and the other side a steep dropoff to a river. Shzt! Now what? Started doing the only thing I could do...try to back down. Got about 10 feet and started to lose it. That car swapped ends so fast that we just looked at each other and said "what happened?".
All we could figure is that one of the studded rear wheels had enough traction to hold us and the other three just slid and pivotted around that wheel. Once we were around that old girl just walked down the hill like it was bare ground. I coulda kissed that car!!
I'll bet Patriot has ice studs on his nags shoes if he can go 20 MPH on 4 legs in snow!! I'm no horseman but the wife is...and won't get on one if there is any trace of ice or snow. She sez she doesn't want to end up on the bottom side of 1200 lbs of flailing horsemeat if they slip and fall. I dunno...I just fix the fences and bale the ha...i mean the horse gas.
Jon.
Spin - The bringer of SMF humor
Had a Volkswagon Bug in the early days. That and an old 56 Volvo would go through anything. No ice studs on the old nag, she is 1/2 thoroughbred - half quarter horse and eight years old. She does not want to wreck anymore than I do, she knows her limits. First mare that I trusted. Her only fault is she does not realize my height on her back, so dodging tree branches is a constant challenge. We have moved cattle in the mountains, black hills, and prairie without mishap. Now that this is posted, doubt she will be ridden tomorrow. Superstition - no, common sense yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawmilleng
#dontjerkanddrive
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I have watched a one ton with a 9 ft fisher, SS sander fully loaded, in park, slide down roads with the plow down to the ground essentially plowing by itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrappah
I have watched tractors with hydro static clutches do the same thing blade on the ground and she starts rolling away.
Grade plays a huge factor in using 4 wheel drive, we have "extremley" steep grades on our routes and I'm going to tell ya, No 4 wheel and you ain't gonna make it one season here. I don't care how many flat roads you have plowed and for how many years you've done it.;)
< Gentle laughter > I was just being playful bro. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NHscrapman
When you're running the little pickup trucks four wheel drive is a necessity for plowing.
I was running heavy metal. An eleven foot Frink on the front and an eight foot wing plow with TEN tons of sand over the driven wheels. The key thing is to maintain your momentum when you're plowing uphill. It takes a little bit of skill but if you know how to run a ten speed the steep grades aren't too much of a problem.
The thing that frigs you up is when the vehicle up ahead of you loses traction and you have to come to a complete stop halfway up the hill. It's iffy about getting a re-start. More often than not you have to back down the hill with the sander on to get some traction.
From what i've seen two wheel drive is pretty much the standard for most municipal and state trucks that plow the roads. I did run one that had a button on the shifter for engaging the differential lock but i didn't like the feel of it. A posi track rear end pushes your truck straight when you're trying to make a turn. Too easy to get into a mess that way ....
lol just busting your brass.
Yeah those big boy's can't handle the snow depth here in the mountains once winter is up and running.When the snowbanks pile up to 10-15 ft and the plows are useless. Basically in a tunnel of snow with a road somewhere at the bottom, plows get stuck with nowhere left to push the snow too. now add mountain passes and steep grades hairpin turns and *shudders* commuters... what a mess.
most municipalities and many private company's in the area use loaders instead with the big 20 ft plows..and lots of em
Either way it's just playing with snowflakes.
Yeah ... i totally hear you. You have to size the equipment to the job.
We used to do pretty well with what we had. The wing plow on the side of the truck is the big thing. What you do is plow and wing back at the same time. As the snow banks on the side start to gain height you can raise the wing plow and " shelf " the bank to whatever height you want up to about six feet.
Those trucks do have their limitations though .....
My eyesight isn't what it used to be when i was younger. I did what i thought was the right thing and retired from running the big trucks awhile back. Even turned in my CDL last October.
My last season on was two or three years back ? That was a real toughie! It was that winter where it came off cold and stayed cold. The snow that fell early on in November didn't melt so the snow banks just kept getting higher and higher as the winter wore on. By late February we were running out of places to put it all. It got to a point where there were some spots on my route that i had to do with the backhoe. ~ Crazy ....Crazy ~
It's like that in the mountains of N.H. and places like Buffalo ALL the time. You wonder how they cope with it all but they do.
Gotta hand it to those guys ! :)