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    Quote Originally Posted by junkfreak View Post
    Its to late to plead the "5th" you just admitted to it.
    What do base that statement on. Refrigerants are not released, they are recovered.
    Its illegal.to say most scrappers do it shows you have not spent anytime researching this topic. If you did you'd know that most scrappers don't do it your way.
    You insult every member on here with a statement like that.
    Many members have ponied up and gotten the proper creds and equipment to do it responsibly including myself.
    People that do it your way,which isn't a majority like you think makes us all look bad.
    Let's add to this that the fine for the intentional release of refrigerant is $37,500. In addition, the EPA MAY give out up to a $10,000 reporting "bonus" to people that turn in people like you.



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    I don't argue well. Zero to sixty at the raising of a voice. So I have gained the wisdom the walk away early in the process. Like any business the key is develop relationships so people call me. Then I go get it at my convenience. If a fridge, stove or piece of metal means that much to a guy he needs it more than I do. I have a policy: TAKE IT, TWIST IT, and SHOVE IT. He needs it more than I do. At least until someone puts a Gaylord of RAM on the curb then LET THE GAMES BEGIN, are you not entertained?
    "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

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    Hey the sad fact is most scrappers do just release it away. I don't need to spend time on the internet to know that the scrapper I see IRL do not much care about EPA regulations. You honestly believe that from those pallets and pallets of compressors they have stacked up in the yard, that at least half of them were recovered properly? An internet discussion forum does not represent every scrapper out on the street.

    Heck, I have seen deputies drive right by a person working over an A/c unit on a curbside. Did not even stop. Its like radar detectors and cell phone jammers. Yea sure, its on paper as not legal, but very little is actually being done to go after such violations.

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    It doesn't matter if anything looks empty- it needs to be legally evacuated.

    There's tons of knowledge on the forum about freon removal, equipment, costs, fees to charge, ...

    I'd read through these articles. I think you'll learn a lot:
    https://www.google.com/search?client...utf-8&oe=utf-8

    matador: "I feel like my job is basically the ability to use Google better than some other people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by matador View Post
    It doesn't matter if anything looks empty- it needs to be legally evacuated.

    There's tons of knowledge on the forum about freon removal, equipment, costs, fees to charge, ...

    I'd read through these articles. I think you'll learn a lot:
    https://www.google.com/search?client...utf-8&oe=utf-8

    matador: "I feel like my job is basically the ability to use Google better than some other people"
    Well, I for won appreciate your ability.
    Thank you!

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    Not a problem! I repair computers all day, so I'm in tech support.



    There's an art to using Google. I know we all love to say "Read the Archives", but there is an art to being able to find what you're looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350scrapper View Post
    I recently was driving along and spotted 2 fridges a house apart. However a scrapper was at one already so I went to the next one. He came running at me yelling that it was his and I couldn't have it. Not looking to get into a fight I left.
    What do you guys think? My opinion is if its not in your truck or your not in the process of loading it its fair game.
    This is one of the main reasons I don't do curbco much.
    I never got many guys wanting to challenge me for scrap. But a few drove by with smart a$$ remarks.
    I try to establish a good relationship with my fellow local scrappers. If I see won put something heavy in his/her truck I stop and give them a hand. Then I give them a card.
    Some people are so territorial that they see red when they spot another scrapper in their " territory ".

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    I would've cut the cord and left.
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    There is no territory, in most towns and villages its illegal to pick. Just depend
    s if you want a altercation or not.

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    not admitting to anything or saying what i have or have not done because now i am certified by the EPA. But I mean the EPA allows the big industrial guys to loose 50lbs every day and still be legal. Ive been taking the actual refrigerant system out of the air conditioners and piling them up for about 6 months now so if i do mess with the legal way I'm not pulling the machine out every week and i only have about 10-15 of em saved up. so I'm not saying whats right or wrong but if the big guys can loose 50lbs of the stuff every day is my 10-15lbs of it in 6 months even comparable to them if i were to break them all apart? I've worked at two yards for awhile and been scrapping since 2010 and Ive only ever seen 3 stickers on any thing that said the freon got sucked out properly. and they all came from a big name hotel maintenance dept. never have i seen any come in the yard with a sticker and most get hit with the loader and loose their **** that way.

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