Buying Scrap Circuit Boards and Other E-Scrap - Page 2

Originally Posted by phildogg

do you buy only the items listed? im wondering about other processors that arent listed.. so a a couple hundred pound load hand delivered, is the payout 100%? thanks

Phildog I buy MOST ALL E-WASTE but my company buys NON-FERROUS, FERROUS, AUTO CORES and CATALYTIC CONVERTERS Just to much to list. I will update the original thread with the most common items And for the record I will pay out on the spot 100% on anyload if you want to wait until it has been gone thru.

Originally Posted by Jonniebrass

Nice to see a buyer that maybe cost efficient for me to drive a load to. 260 miles round trip 99 percent highway. My average shipment has been around 200 pounds so I could get my shipping cost in the .35 cent area. I am not much of a mathematician and did not considered wear and tear or my time.

Wow 260 miles!! Where in Mass do you live?

Originally Posted by hobo finds

Any info on your Arizona location? I would rather drive or ship to Phoenix then to NH

If not shipped to our New Hampshire Branch then pricing on Boards and other high grade will be AT LEAST $0.25lb lower then posted. This is due to the following.

Cost of Shipping from my branches to New Hampshire is around $0.12lb - $0.15lb
Cost of the Branch employee to seperate and clean the boards $0.05lb
Cost of the branch Manager to proffit before he sends boards to me $0.0?lb

Phoenix Arizona Branch
3103 W. Lincoln Street
Phoenix, AZ 85009
Contact Name : Rich Ballou
Cell# (602)509-5954
rich@cmsmorrell.com

Originally Posted by bpatnoe

Mixed feelings about todays trip to them. This was my second trip to them.

FOR EWASTE:

I emailed Sean on Monday asking if his prices were current. I had no response entering this morning so instead of loading up my two gaylords of ewaste I just brought my non-ferrous and a few ewaste items.

I know prices are down but if I knew this much, I might not of bothered.

Server Motherboards - $2.00 per pound (DOWN $1.20 per pound from listed price)
Power Supplies - $0.15 per pound (DOWN $0.10 per pound from listed price)
Floppy Drives - $0.10 per pound (DOWN $0.02 per pound rom listed price)

I can understand the floppy and power supplies but the server motherboards? If I knew this I would of never unloaded them.

I am glad I did not bring all my ewaste for sure.

FOR NON-FERROUS ITEMS:

Prices seem to be fine as some items were higher and some were lower.

Also, PLEASE make sure you go over the slip before you leave the office. The first time I went there was a mess up on some items and this time, there were a few questionable things but because I was still unloading my truck, I did not see the weights. Also, hard to say what was what because on my slip there was "insulated copper wire" described for #1 wire, #2 wire, #1 copper, and #2 copper. While, I don't really think it has to do with the people weighing the items, I think it has to do with the person inputting the numbers into the computer. Even with this, I am very happy with the non-ferrous items.

Insulated Wire (Cords) - $1.00 per pound
Extruded aluminum - $0.50 per pound
Stainless - $0.40 per pound
Transformers $0.20 per pound
Batteries - $0.30 per pound
Brass - $1.80 per pound



So in conclusion...
1) GET prices first especially on ewaste
2) WATCH items being weighed (not saying that items were weighed wrong but hard to read slip because items labeled wrong)
3) CHECK slip before leave and even go over it with them (Error caught the first time I went, Error this time was not caught by me before I left)

Besides this, I do recommend them for many items and will go to again for sure!

Also, the workers were great there. If they were not sure of an item, they checked with others, which is very refreshing. They also showed me how they wanted a few items prepared (why is every scrap place is different?)

I appologize for the prices. If you dont mention when you drop off your electronics that you are part of the forrum then you will receive what we call dock pricing. I also appologize for no being available but as you know it is holiday time of the year and I was off for a couple days.

I recomend next time that you print out the prices listed on the forrum and bring them with you because I manage four locations Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and New Hampshire so I am not always available on site.

Originally Posted by hobo finds

Any info on your Arizona location? I would rather drive or ship to Phoenix then to NH

By the way SWEEEEET AVATAR...

Thank you for the explanation of how you conduct business and answering my questions.


Question 1:The range in pricing for the hard drive boards is because the range in types. EXAMPLE: average scuzzi drive board contains around 250ppm of Au where as your average sata drive board contains around 100ppm of Au.



Full article at Scrap Metal Forum: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/scrap...#ixzz2d987E1HG

I have follow up questions regarding hard drives. You list the ppm(parts per million ?) of Au(gold) in two types of boards. What about IDE hard drive boards and what is the pricing for each type of board? Could you also explain how or where those yield numbers come from and also what is the ppm of the other metals found in those boards?

Also what does 100 ppm of Au(gold) translate to grams?

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

Thank you for the explanation of how you conduct business and answering my questions.


Question 1:The range in pricing for the hard drive boards is because the range in types. EXAMPLE: average scuzzi drive board contains around 250ppm of Au where as your average sata drive board contains around 100ppm of Au.



Full article at Scrap Metal Forum: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/scrap...#ixzz2d987E1HG

I have follow up questions regarding hard drives. You list the ppm(parts per million ?) of Au(gold) in two types of boards. What about IDE hard drive boards and what is the pricing for each type of board? Could you also explain how or where those yield numbers come from and also what is the ppm of the other metals found in those boards?

Also what does 100 ppm of Au(gold) translate to grams?

Brasscatcher the questions you ask go beyond common knowledge and stray into company trade secrets wich i am bound legally to protect as an employee. I am sorry and please understand my position. I am a member of the GRF where I do not conduct business of any type and maintain a neutral hobby stand point. I know for a fact that your answers can be answered by researching the archived threads or by asking one of the experienced members.

I can answer this for you PPM = .001grams

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

Also what does 100 ppm of Au(gold) translate to grams?

its 100g per 1000Kg


Eric

Originally Posted by etack

its 100g per 1000Kg


Eric

100grams per 100kg

Originally Posted by manchvegassalvage

100grams per 100kg

I don't think so.
1000g*100Kg=100,000g
1000g*1000Kg=1,000,000g

1ppm in grams is 1g/1,000,000g

100ppm will have to be 100g/1,000,000g

PPM is usually done in a tone or 22000 pounds. this make the math easier.

Eric

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

Thank you for the explanation of how you conduct business and answering my questions.


Question 1:The range in pricing for the hard drive boards is because the range in types. EXAMPLE: average scuzzi drive board contains around 250ppm of Au where as your average sata drive board contains around 100ppm of Au.



Full article at Scrap Metal Forum: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/scrap...#ixzz2d987E1HG

I have follow up questions regarding hard drives. You list the ppm(parts per million ?) of Au(gold) in two types of boards. What about IDE hard drive boards and what is the pricing for each type of board? Could you also explain how or where those yield numbers come from and also what is the ppm of the other metals found in those boards?

Also what does 100 ppm of Au(gold) translate to grams?

It's a ratio that's an average of different board types. If you think of this in pounds, it's easier to understand since you're selling to them in pounds.

100ppm example: 10000lbs of boards will yield 1lb of gold.

(X)PPM can be thought of as (Original Weight)/1,000,000 * (X)

Originally Posted by SCRAPCOWBOY

If you have 20,000 lbs of boards lets say 22 gaylords he can not process it in 20 or 30 minutes. That takes hours and depending on the time you get there maybe the next day. So the 50 / 50 is fair. All your big dealers do this. Most people here do not work on that volume here people have 100 or 200 lbs that you can sort in 5 minutes. The 50/50 is to keep everyone honest the buyer and the seller. Would you buy something you haven't seen 3.00 a lbs. So the 50/50 will not apply to most of the people hear.

Well said Thank You Scrap Cowboy

Originally Posted by SCRAPCOWBOY

If you have 20,000 lbs of boards lets say 22 gaylords he can not process it in 20 or 30 minutes. That takes hours and depending on the time you get there maybe the next day. So the 50 / 50 is fair. All your big dealers do this. Most people here do not work on that volume here people have 100 or 200 lbs that you can sort in 5 minutes. The 50/50 is to keep everyone honest the buyer and the seller. Would you buy something you haven't seen 3.00 a lbs. So the 50/50 will not apply to most of the people hear.

If I had 20k lbs of boards I would be going direct to a refiner. No I do not buy anything sight unseen, but I wouldn't sell something to a stranger and wait 5 days for a payment either that is worth thousands of dollars. The original post did not differentiate between 100# or 1 gaylord, which is why asked what I asked.

Sean- thanks for the honest responses and the information you provided. I only asked about the pgm content since since you provided some info regarding the Au content. I do understand those are closely guarded secrets and I can access them as well on the grf.
You may want to list a price for each individual type of hd board if that is how you are buying them. It will make the sorting process on your end easier as well.

Good luck with your business and I am sure that since you outed yourself as a member of the grf you will be getting some questions regarding refining and possibly contribute to those discussions here. There are a few members from over there that are members here that have contributed their knowledge on the subject.

One last question, are you refining your own material or do you work with a refiner that you would recommend to people? I ask this since there is a thread on here asking about honest and reputable refiners to work with.

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

If I had 20k lbs of boards I would be going direct to a refiner. No I do not buy anything sight unseen, but I wouldn't sell something to a stranger and wait 5 days for a payment either that is worth thousands of dollars. The original post did not differentiate between 100# or 1 gaylord, which is why asked what I asked.

Sean- thanks for the honest responses and the information you provided. I only asked about the pgm content since since you provided some info regarding the Au content. I do understand those are closely guarded secrets and I can access them as well on the grf.
You may want to list a price for each individual type of hd board if that is how you are buying them. It will make the sorting process on your end easier as well.

Good luck with your business and I am sure that since you outed yourself as a member of the grf you will be getting some questions regarding refining and possibly contribute to those discussions here. There are a few members from over there that are members here that have contributed their knowledge on the subject.

One last question, are you refining your own material or do you work with a refiner that you would recommend to people? I ask this since there is a thread on here asking about honest and reputable refiners to work with.

I am confused if you had 20K lbs of boards wich COULD be worth 10s of thousands dollars ( NO Guarantee ) . You would pay up front for all shipping, Broker fee's, Customs fee's, Trucking Fee's , Container Fee's, Import fee's, and insurance with NO MONEY up front for you product. Then wait 120 days for them to tell you what your product is worth hoping the metals didnt go down. But you wouldnt sell me a few thousand dollars worth of boards (knowing the prices your getting) with 50% payment up front and remainder within 5 days.

I think you hurt my feeling