Ya I was just busting your BRASS with that reply I knew what you ment. I know that there is Know large scale BOARDS refined in this country other then smaller refiners who are allowed so many EPA credits a year to furnace HIGH GRADE material. So they dont do any Boards other then small samples lots. A couple of the mills have small HUBS set up in the USA for their sales reps buying boards outrite. And I can not hedge any of my metals until after they have been processed and assayed then there is a finance charge for that as well. They get you coming and going.