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    Phil - There are different types of places you can get paid for your C.R.V. recycling containers. Vending Machine, Recycling Centers (scrap yards) and Certified CRV Processors. Depending on where you take your cans and bottles makes a huge difference in how much you get paid. Besides the CRV returned to you there is also a "scrap" value. If you take your aluminum cans to a scrap yard that does a "low" volume of aluminum cans and they are just "feeder" yard, that sell to a larger aluminum can CRV processor, then they will pay less. I sell to a CRV processor directly, so I'm eliminating the feeder yard. Most places are certified recycler's that pay the minimum CRV rate ($1.55 to $1.61 changes twice a year) plus a added scrap value. The certified recycler's sell to a certified CRV processor, they get paid the CRV + scrap rate + handling fee. So if you can sell directly to a processor, they can pay you more money! There are thousands of certified recycling and collection facilities. There is only a limited number of CRV processors and the one I sell to is in the city of Ontario, if you want their name, send me a PM and I'll forward their name/address to you.



    California generates money for recycling programs by having the manufacturers producing containers pay an upfront fee. That cost then flows to consumers, who pay an additional deposit fee when they buy CRV beverages $0.05 for containers under 24 ounces and $0.10 for greater than 24 ounce containers (we also pay a sales tax on all CRV sales). The revenue is paid out to recycling processors and curb side collectors (municipal and commercial trash companies).


    Read more here: Recycling advocates ponder expanding California

    Certified recycling centers are allowed to pay by weight as a matter of business efficiency and customer convenience. The State of California Beverage Recycling Division establishes the minimum per-pound payment rate that certified recycler's must pay for each container type (aluminum, plastic, bi-metal, and glass). Currently the minimum payment amount is re-calculated every six months, so the minimum amount per-pound paid by a recycler may change twice a year.

    To help eliminate and reduce theft and fraudulent CRV transactions:
    Effective January 1, 2014, in accordance with the revisions to Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations (14CCR), Section 2535(f), a certified recycler shall not pay refund value to, or claim refund value for any material received from any person, operation or entity who is not certified by the Division, delivering a load of material in excess of 100 pounds of aluminum or plastic beverage containers, or 1,000 pounds of glass beverage containers, per day.

    To answer the questions about importing cans and bottles into California from other states:
    In accordance with 14CCR Section 2831(a)(2), an Imported Material Report (IMR) is required to be completed and signed by the person importing empty beverage container materials for each applicable load of empty beverage containers imported into California. Completed IMR's help CalRecycle and our partners at the Department of Justice to identify persons importing empty beverage containers who may be attempting on their own or conspiring with other individuals or entities to illegally redeem theimported empty beverage container materials for California Refund Value (CRV) at certified or registered entities. Pursuant to 14CCR Section 2831.3, no person registered by the CalRecycle Division of Recycling (Division) as a curbside program or certified by the Division as a recycling center, dropoff or collection program, or community service program shall take delivery of any empty beverage container material that the person knew or should have known was imported into California.Violation of this prohibition regulation or similar regulations may subject you or your entity to civil penalties, revocation of your certification or registration, and/or criminal prosecution.
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    Where are AL can prices for everyone now? Lowest price at the yard closest to me is .28 cents a pound.
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    Even though NY gives 0.05 per can, they would go as clean alum at the yard and that's 0.40/lb. I feel for anyone who's paid by the pound.

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    I said earlier in this thread Cal. authorities would get aggressive with the practice of Arizona and Nevada aluminum can fraud, here is a little update. The following is copied from CalRecycle and the links for more info:Update Jail Time for Recycling Scammers: Ringleader of $14 million fraud scheme awaiting trial. August 27, 2015 Press Release.
    Five Indicted in CRV Recycling Fraud Scheme: $14 million in fraud uncovered in multi-state investigation, May 7, 2015 Press Release

    I personally think they got away with millions and got a slap on the hand (maybe a little more).

    • In September 2013, agents observe Rodriguez Recycling (Los Angeles) importing used beverage containers from Arizona.
    • In April 2014, agents travel to Phoenix and see individuals load a tractor-trailer with empty beverage containers. Agents follow the truck to Bakersfield and witness the delivery to Sequoia Resources.
    • S&S Recycling of Bakersfield, Ignacio Recycling of Lamont, and Gonzalez Recycling of Bakersfield claim California Redemption Value for the loads.
    • Subsequent warrants reveal a loan and delivery scheme at Sequoia Resources.
    • Agents uncover a large-scale fraud operation, organized by Gonzalo Rodriguez. The scheme spanned from 2012 to 2014 and resulted in $14 million in fraudulent redemptions by Rodriguez and his family.
    • CalRecycle terminates the program certifications of 20 recycling centers, and four others voluntarily decertify from the Beverage Container Recycling Program.
    • The California Department of Justice indicts five individuals on criminal charges.
    • Update: Guilty Plea from Recycling Fraud Ringleader. Two Await Sentencing in $14 Million Fraud Scheme
    • SACRAMENTO--The Department of Resources Recycling and Recovery (CalRecycle) will receive $1.3 million in restitution from the alleged ringleader of a recycling scheme involving more than 20 recycling centers in Southern California. Gonzalo Rodriguez is the fourth suspect to accept a plea deal from CalRecycle’s enforcement partners in the California Department of Justice.
      • Gonzalo Rodriguez will be sentenced Oct. 1 after pleading guilty to felony recycling fraud and grand theft with a white-collar enhancement. As part of the deal, Rodriguez will spend 14 months in custody, have 22 months supervised release, and pay CalRecycle $1.3 million in restitution.
      • Belen Gonzales will be sentenced Oct. 1 after pleading guilty to being an accessory (to a felony) after the fact. She was sentenced to time served (five months actual time) and no restitution.

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    Seattle Prices 11/9/15

    Quantity price / lb.
    under 25 lbs. 20¢
    over 25 lbs. 23¢
    over 100 lbs. 26¢
    over 200 lbs. 26¢


    Global glut of Aluminum sinks once strong US Industry


    Alcoa is shutting two plants out here with a loss of 1000 jobs

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    .38/lb the other day

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    Aluminium has dropped about 5% here in the last month.
    Not much but 5% is a lot to bear for our Aluminium smelter here.
    I don't even know how many tons they put out per day anymore, they mothballed several plotlines in the last few years from what I have read. I will find this out in a few days.

    A plotline is about 51 cells @ 1 metric Ton per cell per day.
    Its ultra high purity and I get the impression that its worth less than normal grade Ali.. Not good.
    Its for capactors normally.

    Weirdly, my online scrap metal price reference guide.....
    Its not the company who I sell to, but it gives me some idea on what prices are doing. I get a little more than what the online prices are, except for battery's.
    Says the 'Burnt Copper (wire) is worth a bit more than the 'Domestic Copper' is. For two months in a row.
    Strange.

    I have just scrapped down 3 x 40kg Coal sacks (feed sack size?) of PSU boards. (Tedious, but it gives me more floor space)
    So that's given me about a 40litre bucket of Ali extrusions to clean down, remove screws and transistors etc.
    So I should end up with a $30-$40 sack full of Ali to sell next week.

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    Recyclers battered by global commodities plunge


    I have been getting .30 lb since January for Aluminum Beverage Containers. Last week had to almost go swimming up to the loading dock.
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    .32 yesterday. .30 at the other yard

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    .40 cent lb yesterday at our yard may go up .02 Monday based on a load we just sold.

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    $0.40 (scrap) + $1.60 (CRV) = $2.00 YESTERDAY!

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    I get $1/lb but I sell to a private buyer. Our local yards pay .65/lb though

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberScrapper View Post
    I get $1/lb but I sell to a private buyer. Our local yards pay .65/lb though

    Private purchase of material for recycling skirts the Arizona statue 44-1641. Poorly!!!

    V/r HT1

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    bigburtchino or anyone in California how much are you guys getting for cans and plastic bottles? Prices have dropped big time here!

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    Hobo - On 6/18/16 (Saturday) got $2.01 per pound for aluminum cans and $1.21 for plastic PETE. Aluminum cans are down from this time last year, but over the last three months been steady for me at $2.00 to $2.01. I'm actually getting a little more ($0.04) per pound for my CRV plastic PETE. I'm mainly selling CRV right now, so happy with the stability in Calif. CRV.

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    Hobo - Just wondering if the lower prices for aluminum cans in Arizona is down some by the increased pressure by California law enforcement agencies. Here is a link to a letter sent to Arizona recyclers. Recycling Redefined - Can Smugglers

    The link references many different articles on this problem, the letter sent to Arizona recycling companies is titled Arizona Recycling Law Briefing

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    I think it is.

    Less places advertising rates for cans and #1 plastic. The ones that are have lowered prices lots. $.70 for cans $.30 #1 water. You can get a little more if they are crushed and a little more depending on how many pounds you have. No more days of $1.10 for cans and $.50 plastic #1 I am sure... Which is fine its California's CRV deposit after all. I still want to know what happens when I take my family to California and buy CRV items while I am visiting can I get my deposit back? I just give them to the housekeepers. But when you buy a bottle water in Disneyland and get charged a CRV on it am I supposed to carry around my empty bottles with me on Splash Mountain? LOL
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    31 cents per pound in NE Florida.

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    Roughly .45 a lb here in northern Indiana.
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