Originally Posted by
armygreywolf
I think we aren't so much seeing a direct commodity rise as a rise in rates due to reduction in shipping and processing costs.
I would definitely disagree with that statement, shipping and definitely processing costs have not went down. Some shredders are getting desperate for material to keep the machines running,
some of us are seeing the pathetic competition fall to the wayside (people that overbuilt at the top and are now upside down with no way to make ends meet)
alot of the bottom feeders are closing . honestly about every other scrap yard is for sale, the ones that are not are trying to sell extra equipment great time to be in the market for used equipment
Now I will blow your mind, if you have enough cash this is a great time to open a yards, but there is no chance of a loan to make it happen so you got to have your own capital...
Back to the subject: prices are normalizing it will slowly rise up to about $150/ short ton USD give or take 10% it will probably not happen this year... Sorry folks, Obama's presence alone has the world markets very reserved (scared)
for those of you that think China is the be all end all. China wants the scrap to start moving (volume) but they do not want to overpay for it, so they will slowly raise prices til they get the volume they want at the lowest price. How is this different then everyone else in the world... in the rest of the world if you overpay you loose money, in China if you overpay without permission, you dissappear
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