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    What Will Scrap Metal Prices Look Like in 2025? Share Your Predictions!

    What Will Scrap Metal Prices Look Like in 2025? Share Your Predictions!

    Scrap metal prices have always been unpredictable, influenced by global demand, economic conditions, and supply chain shifts. With 2025 kicking off, now is the time to ask: Where do you think scrap prices are headed?

    Key Factors That Could Impact 2025 Scrap Prices

    Global Demand & Manufacturing – Will the construction and automotive industries drive demand for metals like copper and aluminum?

    Economic Trends – With inflation stabilizing, will scrap prices see steady growth, or are we facing a downturn?

    Regulations & Green Energy – As more governments push for recycling and sustainability, could we see an increase in demand for recycled metals?



    China & International Markets – How will exports and global trade impact scrap values?
    Your Thoughts?

    Do you think copper prices will stay strong, or will steel take the lead? Will aluminum and brass gain value? Share your insights, predictions, and any market trends you’ve noticed!

    Join the discussion below and let’s analyze where the scrap market is headed in 2025!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap-Metal-Forum View Post

    Key Factors That Could Impact 2025 Scrap Prices
    Tariffs

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    Business slows down at my neck of the woods due to tariffs / counter tariffs. Prices of goods are increasing and people are losing their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap-Metal-Forum View Post
    What Will Scrap Metal Prices Look Like in 2025? Share Your Predictions!

    Scrap metal prices have always been unpredictable, influenced by global demand, economic conditions, and supply chain shifts. With 2025 kicking off, now is the time to ask: Where do you think scrap prices are headed?

    Key Factors That Could Impact 2025 Scrap Prices

    Global Demand & Manufacturing – Will the construction and automotive industries drive demand for metals like copper and aluminum?

    Economic Trends – With inflation stabilizing, will scrap prices see steady growth, or are we facing a downturn?

    Regulations & Green Energy – As more governments push for recycling and sustainability, could we see an increase in demand for recycled metals?

    China & International Markets – How will exports and global trade impact scrap values?
    Your Thoughts?

    Do you think copper prices will stay strong, or will steel take the lead? Will aluminum and brass gain value? Share your insights, predictions, and any market trends you’ve noticed!

    Join the discussion below and let’s analyze where the scrap market is headed in 2025!

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    It's a pretty good forum bot. In another setting ... it could stimulate quite a bit of discussion. Throw a bunch of stuff out there and someone would be sure to bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperMiner View Post
    Business slows down at my neck of the woods due to tariffs / counter tariffs. Prices of goods are increasing and people are losing their jobs.
    I suspect that our respective economies will go into recession at some point in the not too distant future. I don't know about Canada, but the U.S. government did quite a bit of debt spending to artificially stimulate the economy during the Covid-19 pandemic years. That heated things up, the numbers looked good on paper, but it didn't represent real economic growth. There's always a cooling off period afterward.

    It's sort of like getting paid on a Friday and then going on a bender over the weekend. It's party on and let the good times roll for awhile. Monday morning always comes. It's time to get back to work, you're flat assed broke, and sick as a dog with a splitting hangover. It takes awhile before you start to feel like yourself again.

    See how it plays. Winter is usually a slow time of year anyway. Maybe things will pick back up again in the spring. There's always hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    I suspect that our respective economies will go into recession at some point in the not too distant future. I don't know about Canada, but the U.S. government did quite a bit of debt spending to artificially stimulate the economy during the Covid-19 pandemic years. That heated things up, the numbers looked good on paper, but it didn't represent real economic growth. There's always a cooling off period afterward.

    It's sort of like getting paid on a Friday and then going on a bender over the weekend. It's party on and let the good times roll for awhile. Monday morning always comes. It's time to get back to work, you're flat assed broke, and sick as a dog with a splitting hangover. It takes awhile before you start to feel like yourself again.

    See how it plays. Winter is usually a slow time of year anyway. Maybe things will pick back up again in the spring. There's always hope.
    $500 USD $719.50000 CAD now add PST/ HST plus 25% tariff - now your living high on the hog.

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    To put i into a better perspective, one troy ounce of gold would cost Hills $2,916.17 USD that same ounce would cost me $4,176.54 Canadian Loonies.

    One litre gasoline BC $1.70.5 Canadian, $7.65 gallon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    To put i into a better perspective, one troy ounce of gold would cost Hills $2,916.17 USD that same ounce would cost me $4,176.54 Canadian Loonies.

    One litre gasoline BC $1.70.5 Canadian, $7.65 gallon.
    I can remember when gasoline was $ .25 USD per gallon back in the 60's. It's not that the price of a gallon of gas went up .... it's that the value -or- buying power of the dollar went down since that time.

    Some currencies are stronger than others. Being the weaker currency ... it takes more Canadian Loonies to purchase an ounce of gold. It's all relative.

    If you think about it ... that US or Canadian dollar is just a piece of paper with pictures & numbers on it. It has no value in itself. It's just a medium of exchange. We could just as easily be using bitcoin or some other form of currency that doesn't even exist in the physical plane.

    The trade imbalances though ... those are real enough. If there's an imbalance of trade between the U.S. and Canada .... in Canada's favor .... there's a flow of wealth from the U.S. to Canada. The Canadians become richer and we here in the U.S. become poorer. That's a real problem for us.

    Tariffs are one way of slowing down our losses until we can negotiate more favorable trading terms with our neighbors.

    Erect trade barriers .... and what is ours stays ours. What is yours is yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    I can remember when gasoline was $ .25 USD per gallon back in the 60's. It's not that the price of a gallon of gas went up .... it's that the value -or- buying power of the dollar went down since that time.

    Some currencies are stronger than others. Being the weaker currency ... it takes more Canadian Loonies to purchase an ounce of gold. It's all relative.

    If you think about it ... that US or Canadian dollar is just a piece of paper with pictures & numbers on it. It has no value in itself. It's just a medium of exchange. We could just as easily be using bitcoin or some other form of currency that doesn't even exist in the physical plane.

    The trade imbalances though ... those are real enough. If there's an imbalance of trade between the U.S. and Canada .... in Canada's favor .... there's a flow of wealth from the U.S. to Canada. The Canadians become richer and we here in the U.S. become poorer. That's a real problem for us.

    Tariffs are one way of slowing down our losses until we can negotiate more favorable trading terms with our neighbors.

    Erect trade barriers .... and what is ours stays ours. What is yours is yours.
    During the mid 1950's Canada was developing a state of art aircraft, due to pressure from our neighbours to the South of us. The Arrow project was scuttled with the Canadian Engineers on the AVRO Arrow project going South to work on what was to become NASA.

    The Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow was a delta-winged interceptor aircraft designed and built by Avro Canada. The CF-105 held the promise of Mach 2 speeds at altitudes exceeding 50,000 feet (15,000 m) and was intended to serve as the Royal Canadian Air Force's (RCAF) primary interceptor into the 1960s and beyond.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    During the mid 1950's Canada was developing a state of art aircraft, due to pressure from our neighbours to the South of us. The Arrow project was scuttled with the Canadian Engineers on the AVRO Arrow project going South to work on what was to become NASA.

    The Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow was a delta-winged interceptor aircraft designed and built by Avro Canada. The CF-105 held the promise of Mach 2 speeds at altitudes exceeding 50,000 feet (15,000 m) and was intended to serve as the Royal Canadian Air Force's (RCAF) primary interceptor into the 1960s and beyond.

    Well ... it's not like we annexed Canada. At least not yet....

    I suppose that would be one way of resolving the tariff thing. How do you guys feel about becoming a U.S. territory ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    Well ... it's not like we annexed Canada. At least not yet....

    I suppose that would be one way of resolving the tariff thing. How do you guys feel about becoming a U.S. territory ?
    Never happen.

    As of 2025, there are 15 Commonwealth realms: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, and the United Kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Never happen.

    As of 2025, there are 15 Commonwealth realms: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, and the United Kingdom.
    Humm ... i had never heard of the commonwealth realms. We don't have anything like that here in the states. I suppose we could annex them all and put them under the leadership of king Donald if that works better for you. I'm sure he would enjoy the title of his most royal highness. You could even put his picture on the Loonie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Never happen.

    As of 2025, there are 15 Commonwealth realms: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, and the United Kingdom.
    Indeed, we're not for sale.

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    I wouldn't worry too much guys. Was just poking fun at the suggestion that the U.S. would assimilate Canada. We've got our hands full just managing what we've got. The federal government has grown to a size that it's become difficult to manage effectively.

    Case in point : We had a few bad storms tear through the winter before last that did quite a bit of damage. The Federal Emergency Management Agency arrived on the scene offering to help .... THREE MONTHS LATER. Nice people but they were strangers in a strange place. They had no sense of the lay of the land.

    The thing i'm finding with Mr. Trump's administration is that they will issue one edict and then change their mind and reverse themselves a few days later. It's just as well likely that they will reverse themselves on the tariffs too. Our main complaint with Canada is the flow of illegal drugs and immigrants into the United States. If you guys can step up enforcement and do something about that on your end .... you'll probably have few problems with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    Our main complaint with Canada is the flow of illegal drugs and immigrants into the United States. If you guys can step up enforcement and do something about that on your end .... you'll probably have few problems with us.
    Cut the head from the snake, problem solved.

    China is also the global principal supplier of precursors for another synthetic drug, methamphetamine. And those precursors go, in in the case of fentanyl, to Mexican cartels, in the case of meth, to Mexican cartels and also criminal groups in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Cut the head from the snake, problem solved.

    China is also the global principal supplier of precursors for another synthetic drug, methamphetamine. And those precursors go, in in the case of fentanyl, to Mexican cartels, in the case of meth, to Mexican cartels and also criminal groups in Asia.
    It's not as simple as you would like. The Chinese, Russians, and Middle Eastern factions have been funneling illegal drugs into the country for decades because they know that the surest way to take down a society is to corrode it from within. Recreational drugs and alcohol are incredibly destructive to the family, the community, and to the nation. Trafficking in illegal drugs carries the death penalty or a lifetime prison sentence in some countries.It's not without good reason.

    You really need to take a holistic approach to the illicit drug problem. You have to address it at the local,state, federal, and international level. The international level is where Canada and Mexico have to step up and do their part.

    Think about it ... do you really want to allow these cartels and organized criminal enterprises to be operating in your country ?

    Human trafficking and slavery is also involved as well.

    If you are not part of the solution ... you are part of the problem. Mr. Trump is telling you that it's your choice if you want to sit back and be a part of the problem but it will cost you in the form of tariffs and maybe even trade embargoes.

    Sorry ... but trying to wash your hands of it and thinking it's someone else's problem won't play. The social services and meager provisions for the common defense your government provides to it's citizens are heavily dependent on American dollars. If that flow of wealth to the North is interrupted or cut off .... you will have to pay for what services you receive from your government in the form of even higher taxes and reduced payments to pensioners like yourself. Your universal healthcare system is also at risk of collapse. It makes up over 12% of your GDP and one of the most expensive among the OECD countries.

    Anyhow .... i'm just trying to highlight that you guys do have a stake in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    It's not as simple as you would like. The Chinese, Russians, and Middle Eastern factions have been funneling illegal drugs into the country for decades because they know that the surest way to take down a society is to corrode it from within. Recreational drugs and alcohol are incredibly destructive to the family, the community, and to the nation. Trafficking in illegal drugs carries the death penalty or a lifetime prison sentence in some countries.It's not without good reason.

    You really need to take a holistic approach to the illicit drug problem. You have to address it at the local,state, federal, and international level. The international level is where Canada and Mexico have to step up and do their part.

    Think about it ... do you really want to allow these cartels and organized criminal enterprises to be operating in your country ?

    Human trafficking and slavery is also involved as well.

    If you are not part of the solution ... you are part of the problem. Mr. Trump is telling you that it's your choice if you want to sit back and be a part of the problem but it will cost you in the form of tariffs and maybe even trade embargoes.

    Sorry ... but trying to wash your hands of it and thinking it's someone else's problem won't play. The social services and meager provisions for the common defense your government provides to it's citizens are heavily dependent on American dollars. If that flow of wealth to the North is interrupted or cut off .... you will have to pay for what services you receive from your government in the form of even higher taxes and reduced payments to pensioners like yourself. Your universal healthcare system is also at risk of collapse. It makes up over 12% of your GDP and one of the most expensive among the OECD countries.

    Anyhow .... i'm just trying to highlight that you guys do have a stake in this.
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