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    GRF has no post requirements but they have a pretty quick "show you to the door" one if you refuse to heed the advice to search before you post.

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    My Bad E.

    Last I visited without being signed in it appear is why I couldn't see posts. Bleh.

    I take back my prior post. GRF does not have such a system. Mr. E was kind to set me straight...right in front of the class. Tough love sucks when it's directed back at you. Ha ha! ( I tease E.)

    Like Etack said tho...they do have a very good ban hammer, an the staff wields it with great skill.

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    You ask some of the kind of questions on GRF or say stupid things you know nothing about like some here lately, you will last just long enough to get the worst butt chewin you ever had then banned.
    "anyone who thinks scrappin is easy money ain't doin it right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by logansryche View Post
    The bitcoin forum is like this, you have to reach a certin post count before you're allowed to post anywhere else. I think such a feature would benefit SMF.
    A BS Meter would come in handy too.
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    I have a slightly different take on this. I think there really needs to be a thread, or better yet, a chat area that is an ongoing freestyle type of discussion area. I don't mean an anything goes place that could go downhill fast, but a place with the same rules to post all kinds of daily thoughts and questions which will scroll off and not become permanent in the archive. This will keep the search feature from pulling up so many threads to have to weed through before finding whatever info I'm looking for. I've had some thoughts, ideas, dumb questions, etc. that I haven't posted because I didn't want to start a thread and add to the large pile of stuff that won't go away after use.

    I know this isn't perfect and there would be new info brought up that really needed to be in a thread to itself. Maybe it would be movable to a thread, I'm not sure about that part.

    I don't want to discourage new people too much. Sometimes what people really need is a group of friends to talk to, not just answer a question about CRTs.

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    You guys kill me.......HAH!

    I haven't posted here in a while, and it's kind like "what's the point" type in my questions main characters "tin wire" click search and read.... Read.... Read some more, go square eyed [] [] and read some more again......

    Just ignore them, they don't have the time to do it the right way, so don't give them the time of day with a response.

    P.s. Thank again for all of the awesome threads.... (Still trying to figure out if I should cut the wire off of PS, and what bin it should go in, so I suppose rreading to much can Scramble ones brain box) LOL
    If it's not bolted down it's mine, if it's bolted down and I can pry it up.....it's still mine....

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    I'm not trying to run anyone off either. Just trying to avoid the same, COMMON questions from having to be answered again an again. An at this point..a lot of things are common questions, that can be answered by searching an reading. If your in need of that fast of a reply, then waiting for a member to answer isn't any faster then just going ahead an searching.

    I'm not trying to be rude about it. it's how I learned, so I expect others to be willing to put in the same amount of work. I spent many hours reading posts on here before posting. An it was well worth it. Some may count it as time lost I count it as very well spent time. What I spent reading, saved me big bucks in trial an error. So it worked out.

    I'm sure things will march on as they are to be honest. Older folks will get tired of answering such, newer folks will start doing so, new will become old, an the cycle will repeat.

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    It's pretty obvious when a question like: Is it worth my time to scrap a TV? or Where is the best place to get scrap metal? or How can I find more gold in my e-waste? or I don't want to waste my time doing this, how can I make the most money? I have not seen any exactly like these examples. There are some questions almost identical to these, It honestly amazes me, People who ask and then get offended when they are not happy with the answers are just plain a$$ stupid! I call and classify these types of people as "Non Events", we really shouldn't get to upset (hard not to do), they will not be here long!

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    I have read so much on this forum and tried to practice all the techniques here and what I have now is tons of scrap that I'm tired of processing.....LOL.......I think I'm going to take an extended vacation and deal with it later.............

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    Perhaps the "Scrap Metal Forum: Beginners Start Here - Metal Recycling Basics" should be moved to the top of the first page.

    Or call it "Frequently Asked Questions - Beginners Start Here"

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    so true


    Quote Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot View Post
    Can anyone tell me if it's worth it to scrap a tv?

    An I've just been dumping the glass out in my backyard, in the creek bed there. I also burn all my copper wire in my fire pit that I use for cooking outside. I mean it's not like the fumes from the burning plastic are any worse then all that gas you breath in while smash crt tubes.

    Anyhow, thanks for the tips and advice guys! Gotta go grab some wire now from a house down the street. People got foreclosed on..haha suckers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuburnEwaste View Post
    Many other forums I have visited put restrictions on what/when new people can post. I am a member of a beer forum and you can't post for 2 weeks after joining.
    Well that be OK as long as the cooler is full. Lol.

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    Although it's not 'required' we push pretty hard to encourage an introduction as a first thread when members first sign up.

    Is it possible for us to require an introduction thread before a new member can post anywhere else? Yes. But there are also pros and cons to that.

    One of the cons being, some new members do join and immediately provide value in some way without first introducing themselves.

    Another reason being, by forcing a member to post a thread that they don't want to post, that could result in introductions that are no good and do nothing but take up space. For example, "Hi I'm Jim, and I just posted this thread so I can post somewhere else". I would just delete that if I saw it.

    So we do make it clear upon registration that an introduction is preferred/suggested, but we do not force it. More rules, even with good intentions, isn't necessarily always better.

    In regards to picture posting and links...

    To be specific, URLs in general (not just links) cannot be posted by new members. So this includes links AND images hosted at external sites like photobucket or imageshack or wherever, since both are URLs. The only difference between a link to a "webpage" and a link to an "image" is a different URL, there's really no way to differentiate between the two.

    This is obviously to prevent spam and people who sign up just to advertise their websites.

    This is one of the reasons why almost zero spam makes it to the forum for members to report and wait for an admin or a moderator to delete. Or worse, get fooled and accidentally click on a spam IMAGE posted by a sly spammer and end up on an untrusted website.

    After a member has 2 posts, and has been registered for a full day, they will be able to use URLs (post links and images) in their posts. Assuming the member's first posts weren't deleted or removed for being spammy or irrelevant before then.

    Although I certainly understand this frustration for new members, measures like this are in place to keep this community clean and healthy and valuable for everyone.

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    Yea I don't know... Whenever I see a thread like that just tell them nicely to use the search function. If you don't want to dont. Nobody is forcing you to checkout those stupid question threads so I dont see a reason to be angry about it. They will learn whence they only get one response telling them to search it.

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    @Admin- it has been asked actually and suggested by some when you were asking for improvements for the site that the basics section be moved to the top of the page or at least below the buyers section. As of today its the last section right above the smf office threads. The beginners start here section is the last thread in the basics section. Maybe if these were in a more prominent location the redundant questions might stop.
    On another forum so many basic questions have lead to it being almost impossible to use the search feature without bringing up over 100 threads covering the same thing over and over again. It will get that way here too if the new people aren't pushed to at least read the basics section first before posting.
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    A good solution may be to allow members of the forums for over 2 years to click a button that declairs a post as useless or repetative and than whence it has like 3 of these it notify you and you can check it out and delete it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevinThaScrapper View Post
    A good solution may be to allow members of the forums for over 2 years to click a button that declairs a post as useless or repetative and than whence it has like 3 of these it notify you and you can check it out and delete it.
    Like the Report Post button I just click on for post #36?
    LOL

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    I've been a member of a gardening forum for 10 years or more now and they had the same issues over there. Newbies asking common questions and expecting members to answer all of them. I've seen newbies get pissed because they were ignored or because someone pointed out the search feature.

    It's a common problem on any public forum.

    It was decided by about 20 longtime members that the lazy newbies were only part of the problem. The other problem was the "enablers". These were forum members who were very quick to answer any and every question no matter how common or stupid it might be.

    Also some or these "enablers" were the very same people who were complaining about the newbies.

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    Like the old saying...
    You can lead a horse to water but.....
    It really is their loss . It would have taken 10 years for me to learn what I've learned in the couple years I've been here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HonestScrap View Post
    Perhaps the "Scrap Metal Forum: Beginners Start Here - Metal Recycling Basics" should be moved to the top of the first page.

    Or call it "Frequently Asked Questions - Beginners Start Here"
    For certain one's...
    Nope it wouldn't work.
    I guess some people just need that personal touch.
    Its all about ME!!!! Lol

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