Whats the secret

So as you all know I am very green but I have an important question...WHAT'S THE SECRET?

In order to get big money you need big loads, in order to get big loads you need big vehicles, in order to get big vehicles you need big money! I'm so confused...

Can anyone help?

What's the secret ? If they told you then it wouldn't be a secret anymore !

Seriously .... maybe check this out.

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YES,
the BIG $ECRET that many seek and few find is in all honest fact,

NOT a big secret.

it's mostly in the known and honest odds.

how we view and treat those odds is what decides the payoff.

I myself don't bother trying to "beat" the known odds as I don't believe in the same sort of magic that most odds require.

the "magic" I seek is not of this world simply put.

But as for the popular SECRETS that many believe they are seeking.

YOU are in control of the ATOMS that you are personally constructed of.

How many "middle men" do you use to communicate and connect with the person that you are?

Yes it is deep, but that is where the REAL root of secrets dwell.

No secret here turn in metal get $. But as you find your way thru this site you WILL find a few answers on how to make more money from that metal or electronic device you have. Even with the drop in prices you can still make money and with the info here make MORE MONEY!!!!

Originally Posted by childhooddream

yes,
the big $ecret that many seek and few find is in all honest fact,

not a big secret.

It's mostly in the known and honest odds.

How we view and treat those odds is what decides the payoff.

I myself don't bother trying to "beat" the known odds as i don't believe in the same sort of magic that most odds require.

The "magic" i seek is not of this world simply put.

But as for the popular secrets that many believe they are seeking.

You are in control of the atoms that you are personally constructed of.

How many "middle men" do you use to communicate and connect with the person that you are?

Yes it is deep, but that is where the real root of secrets dwell.

mind....blown!!

Originally Posted by webuyselltradestuff

no secret if you are starting out with very little in the way of capital ($$). You have to start small, SAVE and grow...sometimes slowly. There is no "GET RICH" button...otherwise I would have already pushed it....ALOT.

Spend all you can learning, here especially since it is mostly free knowledge. Figure out a business plan...ie what the heck are you going to specialize in. Do NOT say EVERYTHING, you will be mediocre/jack of all trades instead of being REALLY good at whatever you choose. Once you have that, write the goals and figure out the costs to get there. Write them down in manageable bites (mountains can be moved, just one rock at a time). Go after each goal tirelessly....put in the work. Check off each goal and then you are on to the next one....rinse & repeat.

After awhile, you will look back and realize how much you are making NOW vs then....keep going. On and on as far as you want to take it. Shoot for the stars...even if you only hit the moon, the view is pretty **** good.

Charles

I really relate to this post. I started a few months ago collecting everything and quickly became overwhelmed. So I really thought about it just a few days ago as I was disassembling stuff and hurt my shoulder. At that point I went blind with pain and fury so I picked up a three pound sledge and started hitting a weedwacker motor that wouldn't come apart easily...it came apart.

I decided that working or fixable items for resale would be my go to. Electronics, furniture without fabrics, vacuums and such. Wish I thought of that before I hurt my shoulder

Originally Posted by matador

right now, the key is in more than scrap value items. Let's do some math at some pre-crash prices out here.

Say that i purchase a 1 ton truck and gooseneck trailer for $7000. That isn't a lot of truck, but you could get a useable workhorse for the price. I can haul (legally) 10k pounds with this setup. Steel paid $75/ton at the time, so that's $375 per load. We'll discard the costs of registration and insurance, along with maintenance. We'll say that it takes 50 gallons of fuel to collect that load and haul it in to the yard (we're a rural area). Oh yeah, the truck is gasoline, and gasoline was roughly $2.75 this summer. That's $137.50 in fuel. That leaves me with $237.50 profit potential per load. So, to pay off the truck hauling scrap (my time is worthless in this calculation), you would need to haul about 30 loads of scrap, or more exactly 147.39 tons of steel. That's not going to happen very quickly out here.

What comes into play is using trucks for something else. I have a 1986 dodge that i use to haul scrap in sometimes. But, i've used it this year to haul firewood and to deliver straw bales. That covers the truck costs, not scrapping steel. If you can find copper or e-waste, the picture can be different. But, steel won't pay off a large truck (and the hypothetical setup is pretty tame in the grand scheme).

Right now, the crash brought steel prices down to $0/ton, so a truck will never pay itself off out here. You can't charge- farmers don't care if their old all crop sits for another 20 years. It's been sitting where it was since gerald ford was president anyways....

you had me at math!!!!

Find anyway you can to make money. If you have extra land, have the timber cut or use it for hay. If you have a trailer, advertise a hauling service. If you have a skidsteer, learn to do some grading. If you're even okay at a trade, use those skills to sell crafts. I sell forks that clamp onto tractor buckets that I sell all day long for $250 a set because I am an okay welder, so why not try it out? Find something you like to do and make money at that.

its simple, find the amount of work that you want to do to keep it fun and productive, spend the money you make wisely and invest with the growth of your business with out loans, treat people to the best service and they will fill your wallet. plan your business as a business for the good and bad so you can pile in the cash in all weather lol

We all start at the bottom. But it goes pretty much in the order of the first post. Small loads often = $. Save $ from each trip for a truck = big loads. Big loads = big $. In that order. Don't change anything you do now, debt wise. The secret... PATIENCE

I like to drink Natty Lights with an occasional amber beer thrown in to make things interesting, but not too expensive. The secret is to adjust your costs so that you can afford to drink the beer you want to drink while you do your scrapping. If you cannot afford the beer you want to drink while scrapping, no amount of secret sharing will help you.