Dirty Tricks of the trade. - Page 3

Stay honest and good things will come your way

Originally Posted by olddude

Karma is a woman and, she's a real Bit##.

Yes, but if you treat her right ,she can be oh so nice.lol

I'd stay honest. I mean, if you owned the yard, would you want that stuff going on? That just gives certain scrappers a bad name at the yard. I want my yard to know that when I pull it I've got good stuff for them, and I expect to be treated fairly, too. Fairness has to run both directions. I'd almost bet they short his weight when he pulls out by 20-50lbs or so - how would he know unless he goes to a truck weight station to find his weight? They probably laugh at him.

treat others as you would like to be treated,

unless you are overly kinky or such...

It seems that there are those that justify trying to do onto others before they do onto them.

Seems it depends on if a person is honest or they just pretend that they are more honest then others as make believe and pretend reality does rule this world.

I find it interesting in a sad sort of way how some people are so smart that they outsmart not only some others, but also themselves. Then they get angry and try and feed the anger monkeys on their backs as that makes them feel alive and powerful.

I have noticed over the last 30 years that many people that I knew were getting more desperate as the credit trap squeezed them and cut off the air supply to their brains like a nasty tumor.

Justification can be bought for a price at the same place that sells magic goo for growing hair on bald heads, invisible friends and all sorts of lucky charms and special chanted words.



Buy one and get one free

and as always Wednesday is double coupon day.

may the farce be with you?

Man these are some horror stories but Im sure there are worse out there. I enjoyed the guy at the scrap yard being able to sit back and relax when I showed up because I had everything sorted and mostly clean. The dirty whatever was in a separate bucket and large appliances where dismantled as much as possible or had a few holes it in. The worst I have knowingly done is put Hershey kisses foil in cans because I hate the trash and my kids leave it all over the place.

i can also cheat my yard quite a bit but it just doesn't feel right.
any normal, decent person can tell deep down in his heart if something is right or not and im not comfortable about cheating.

there have been a few times when i did cheat but that was bcos i saw that the yard unfairly docked/deducted a few kgs from my clean non ferrous ... so i made a point to remedy that.
tmrw im taking in another load of non ferrous- almost all clean(dirty is kept separately) & im going to tell the guy BEFORE i put my stuff on the scale that he does not need to deduct bcos my stuff is clean.

hopefully things go smoothly.

Originally Posted by SKWrapper

Did you ever try talk to them about it - or just decided to cheat next time to be "even"?

they will just say that i should speak to the guy in charge of the non ferrous next time- and no talk of recompense for the deductions.

It seems like different guys have different work styles. Some are a bit laid back and do the job partway. Some take pride in their work and go the extra mile. The laid back guys are more productive. The guys that go the extra mile have better quality. It all evens out in the long run. You get out of it ... what you put into it.

Some guys are just lazy crooks too. They eventually get their due as well.

Just my thing, but i would suggest going for quality. That seems to be what works best for me. The good work that you put out there has a way of coming back around in ways you could never expect or anticipate. It's a charmed life sometimes.

I can't say every bit I throw on a load is pure steel, but I will say that it is at least something that has some metal on it. I won't throw the fan blades I have snapped off a ceiling fan in the load because it just feels wrong. Most of my pay is brass and copper and aluminum and the steel is the extra debris I get from scrapping the good stuff. They have helped me bring top dollars from my good stuff and I don't want to get tagged as a douchecanoe for adding garbage to the fluff part of my goodies.

Originally Posted by t00nces2

I can't say every bit I throw on a load is pure steel, but I will say that it is at least something that has some metal on it. I won't throw the fan blades I have snapped off a ceiling fan in the load because it just feels wrong. Most of my pay is brass and copper and aluminum and the steel is the extra debris I get from scrapping the good stuff. They have helped me bring top dollars from my good stuff and I don't want to get tagged as a douchecanoe for adding garbage to the fluff part of my goodies.

I never add garbage, but I dont get rid of stuff that they would have taken whole as shred either. Not sure if that is a bad thing to do, thats just what I figured everyone did and what was expected. For example, if I take apart a dryer and take the engine and other bits out, any peices that come off, go right back into it to go to the shred pile, plastic or not. They would have bought it all whole as shred anyways... I have never had an issue doing this and assumed this was what was supposed to be done.

Hills.
We have something like that here, but its just called 'lightgauge clean' & 'lightgauge dirty'. So theres 2 different prices per ton.

With 'Lightgauge dirty' its a lower price & they tack on a $15-25 'Rubbish fee' per sale.
That rubbish fee peeved me off, i really go out of my way to make sure theres no plastic, foam, glass or wood stuck to it.
We have weekly rubbish collection included in my Council rates, so i make as much use of the bins as possible.

I once brought a load that had a Dodge dart trunk with the plastic reflector bar thing still attached(not the tail lights) and disassembled washer to the non shredder yard. You know, the plastic liner around the drum. 40lb tare for plastic. Yeah, they no longer get any steel from me. They are only good on non ferrous anyways....

My yard has those categories, but I think another category too.

#1 steel, is anything that is metal only, and over I think 1/8 thick. So like.... I-beams, angle iron, etc. Then prepped means its under like 5ft long and able to be sent off as is (and as such they pay more for). Then unprepped is the same stuff, but over 5ft long.

So there is #1 prepped which is the highest, #1 unprepped which is a little lower, then the "tin"/"light-iron"/shred category, which is less than all of those. That is what appliances, bikes, and anything else metal that I dont know where else to put it goes.

here in OKC we have always had the same pricing on steel at all our scrap yards no matter if its heavy I-beam or a steel storage shed u tore down,,always one price , this monday it was down to .02 a pound,,i have never padded my loads,, they always inspect,at the scale, and take pics of load and u and vehicle too..once as i was unloading i saw a 20# propane tank 10 feet away, and went to look at it, it looked nearly new,,well it was intact,and still had fuel in it !!! so i put it in back of my truck,,one guy there at unloading spot, didnt know if he saw or not,,went to payout,told the lady about it, that some idiot left it there, its like a bomb,if they crush it ,,she agreed and i left with it..every once in a while is see something like that and take it home,thick steel plate,round bar,I-beam,large angle iron,short pieces mind u , nothing over 2 ft, and they have never said anything,,cant do that if u cheat all the time,,now i do save AL pull tabs off steel soup can lids and put 10 or so in a beer can then stomp it flat,, but its AL just like the can,,u cant show up at a scrap yard with a 5 gallon bucket full of AL pull tabs and expect them to take it, so in a AL can they go,,also save the steel can lids, put them in a large baked beans can, about a dozen or so, insert another steel can into that,as far as it will go , then smash the top of the 2 cans flat,and its all contained in the large steel can, and all steel..