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    Vacuum cleaner motors

    How much copper is in an average vacuum cleaner moter?I always grab a vacuum off of the curb cut the electrical cord for 1 a lb.Take the motor out then cut the rest if the wire out.But now I'm thinking after scrapping a 100 or so how much money did I cost myself not taking copper out of the motor ?


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    I pull the moters out of every vacuum I can get. Some I sell the moter whole and some I take the copper out of. I have not wieghed the copper but I would think it would be about a 1/4 pound.

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    Do you ever get older ones that you thought to sell or they are just scrap?

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    The rollers are aluminum too

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    That's good to know but some motors the copper looks pretty thick still might be worth the time.

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    The round fan blade on the front of the motor is also aluminum. Also, the stator laminations are all steel. Toss those right into your shred barrel once you have removed the copper windings.

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    pretty much all the cheap vacuums i take the sledge to, now if i find a kirby or dyson on the curb that would be a whole different deal. I just toss the whole motor with the blade on it into the copper motor/transformer pile.

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    Lately I've been tossing the moters in the moter/transformer bin because 1 I don't get as many vacs. as I used to and 2 I would rather spend the time braking down e-waste.

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    victim : dirtdevil bagless 12amp upright
    net yields : all numbers in ounces

    0.72 brass from motor brush holders and plug

    4.02 copper from motor

    .99 copper from armature

    1.36 aluminum from motor

    15.85 from wires

    36.75 shred from motor, shafts, screws etc.



    your mileage may vary
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    i love vacuums sure theres alot of trash if like me theres no plastic buyer near or recycler but there easy and fun just cut smash and grab i have yet to tear into my motors i am waiting for alot to build first but cords are juicey and some of the professional ones i buy at auctions for $1 or less are great cause they replace with 25ft medium ext. cords and have 2 motors big inside and medium in the head plus belts to resell and brand new bags sometimes also well working ones can be a quick $5-10 sell on the cheaper ones.
    i had a dyson last year that what was wrong i seen right away the cord on the outside was broke on one side like it was hit on a corner or something and i cut it wired nutted it and taped it to make sure it was secure. then sold it on creigs list as it was full disclosure so that they knew what i did but presto $90 they offered from $125 i had on it and sure i could have hagled with them more but $90 for maybe 25cents in parts and 20min of my time was a good deal lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    LOL Your not going to get $35 in shred from an upright vaccum. I just dont see them weighing 400 pounds. Realistically your looking at $25 in scrap if you break it all the way down or $20 for a quick partial break down with a sledge and some wire cutters.
    read 2nd line again

    net yields : all numbers in ounces

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    jghilino, who said anything about getting 35.00 in shred from a vacuum? I would like to know where you sell your scrap, I have broke down 100's of vacuums and never get more than 4.00-5.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtoothlessbassmaster View Post
    read 2nd line again

    net yields : all numbers in ounces
    roger that, ounces. I thoughy he was listing prices of the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyscraper View Post
    jghilino, who said anything about getting 35.00 in shred from a vacuum? I would like to know where you sell your scrap, I have broke down 100's of vacuums and never get more than 4.00-5.00.
    That was an error, i thought he was listing prices not weights. my bad

    Im seeing a 5 pound motor $2 (split the aluminum blade off for clean aluminum). 20 pounds of shred (vacuum carcass) $2. I dont remember the weight of the wiring but i think its about 3 pounds of number 2 insulated so $4. Misc brass and other stuff like switches/boards. 50 cents. So thats around $8 total or am i completely off?

    Personally i dont scrap the vacuum cleaner cords. I put a replacement cord end on the other end and make them into extension cords.


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    0.72 oz brass from motor brush holders and plug
    brass @ $1.65 pound or 0.103125 cents per ounce
    0.72 x 0.103125 = 0.07425 cents round up to .08 cents

    4.02 oz copper from motor
    #2 copper @ $2.55 pound or 0.159375 cents per ounce
    4.02 x 0.159375 = 0.6406875 cents round up to .65 cents

    .99 oz copper from armature
    .99 x 0.159375 = 0.1577812 cents round up to .16 cents

    1.36 oz aluminum from motor
    sheet alum @ .47 pound or 0.029375 cents per ounce
    1.36 x 0.029375 = 0.03995 cents round up to .04 cents

    15.85 oz from wires
    insulated copper wire @ .97 pound or 0.060625 cents per ounce
    15.85 x 0.060625 = 0.9609062 cents round up to .97 cents

    36.75 oz shred from motor, shafts, screws etc.
    shred @ .07 pound or 0.004375 cents per ounce
    36.75 x 0.004375 = 0.1607812 cents round up to .17 cents

    recap :
    .08
    .65
    .16
    .04
    .97
    .17
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    $2.07 total

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    I'm impressed with the detail of your analysis. Did you weigh the plastic? I'm thinking that if someone had a buyer, that's where the easier money would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto View Post
    I'm impressed with the detail of your analysis. Did you weigh the plastic? I'm thinking that if someone had a buyer, that's where the easier money would be.
    thanks

    to keep the thread on topic i just listed the breakdown of the motor and other metals found.
    the plastic "bagless" section was missing on this unit so an actual total weight would be off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtoothlessbassmaster View Post
    0.72 x 0.103125 = 0.07425 cents round up to .08 cents
    Unfortunately, that would round off to 7 cents, not 8. If the number after the "7" is 5 or higher, round up. 4 or lower, round down. So the total would be $2.00. Still, great job on breaking everything down for us.

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    still would be worth it just to see the look on the scale dudes face when you put this load of brass on that floor scale


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtoothlessbassmaster View Post
    still would be worth it just to see the look on the scale dudes face when you put this load of brass on that floor scale
    Check with a magnet but the rectangular looking things don't look like brass to me. Looks like tin.
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