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    I think most scrappers understand the difference between the recycle bins and stuff on the curb. What we are worried about is more libtard rules and regulations.

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    just my 2 cents worth:
    but i think its due to the exposure scrapping has received(and forums like this) where we happily talk of how good it pays to scrap etc, that is drawing the attention of parties we dont want the attention of.
    it has become quite popular and some people dont seem to see anything wrong in stealing scrap that belongs to someone else- and as a result, laws are passed which affect all scrappers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technologyrecycling View Post
    I am going to try my best not to throw around words that are usually misunderstood.. Words like "Ignorance". So, you live in a town which collects your trash for you. That trash is paid for with your taxes. Your taxes are based on a budget. That budget is formulated based on previous years expenses and earnings. One of those earnings is recycling windfalls... Some towns hire outside firms to handle their recycling and garbage pick ups. These bid on an RFP (request for proposal). In the RFP are figures and estimates. These include tonnage #s for all of the different types of material they pick up. What keeps the cost down is the money that is made off of recycling.

    You all may think that is greedy or they are beating up the little guy.. But, the owners of these companies often times were little guys themselves once building up a business. They bid on accounts or service accounts based on observed tonnage numbers. When the valuable material disapears.. prices go up. That's when the customer starts complaining that they should not have to pay more for garbage removal service. Yet, you guys don't see this as stealing. So, while the guy pulling cans or stealing cardboard off the street may not be hurting anyone in your eyes.. That person is directly impacting the garbage company which indirectly impacts the customer of that garbage company who services that location.

    This isn't about greed. This is about business. It is no different than if you won a bid on something and when you went to pick it up half of it... or even worse all of it was missing. You would be pretty pissed too. Especially if you put in time and effort to win that bid.
    Yeah yeah, heard this one before. Don't steal govt hates competition, to put it in short, right ?
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    2 things....

    1. I hear the "I paid in all these years and I never see nothing from it" realistically most people don't really pay in that much over the years. And when you hit what you paid in and benefits gotten are you going to stop getting benefits?

    2. Don't like it? Change it. Many out here could actually be on government boards or councils.

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    Nope goverments don't hate compention its big bunssiess that hate compention. More profits for them to use but this will fail if the people have say. This is just more prove to me we need to get money out of poltics and renstate a harsher bill that disbans monpolies.

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    I owned my own garbage company that lost $1,000.00s of dollars a night to guys who rented box trucks and picked cardboard up off the street... If I were to take another company's cardboard with my truck I would lose my license in a heart beat. But because they didn't have anything to hold over these guys heads (i.e a license) they were able to go about picking up the stuff from the curb. All of these accounts were worked for.. They had contracts...

    How does your opinion of the gov't stealing from you have anything to do with people stealing from businesses?

    Just because it is put out on the curb for collection doesn't mean it is worthless.. I WOULD LOVE if people wanted to take bags of garbage that cost my company money every night to dispose of. Instead they took what was valuable.... And **** right you want to make more profit. That doesn't make you greedy, that makes you a business owner. If you open up your own business and are not in it to make a profit.. and spend every day to make more profit you are doing it wrong.


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