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    Quote Originally Posted by pjost View Post
    Is the bigger pile of black stuff in pic 2 and 3 aluminum? If so I am guessing 1000 lbs of aluminum wire.
    I want to revise my guess to 600 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjost View Post
    I want to revise my guess to 600 lbs.
    Hang in there with your first quote, personally I think the large black is aluminum.

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    My guess 4444 lbs. total insulated wire! Who knows what else the guy may have when you get there and set your price. Could get a bunch of free stuff added to the mix. And if you are giving him a per pound price are you weighing it there as you load it or going to give him actual scrapyard weight after turning it in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    My guess 4444 lbs. total insulated wire! Who knows what else the guy may have when you get there and set your price. Could get a bunch of free stuff added to the mix. And if you are giving him a per pound price are you weighing it there as you load it or going to give him actual scrapyard weight after turning it in?
    Not weighing there. It is either going to be based on the scale from my buyer or my own scale, if I finally pull that trigger. Been debating a 4x4 floor scale for a while. It's tough shipping LTL wit out one. You either need to have small boxes, or weigh stuff as you fill a gaylord or pallet. I have a 3 or 4 pallet load that needs to go out shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    Not weighing there. It is either going to be based on the scale from my buyer or my own scale, if I finally pull that trigger. Been debating a 4x4 floor scale for a while. It's tough shipping LTL wit out one. You either need to have small boxes, or weigh stuff as you fill a gaylord or pallet. I have a 3 or 4 pallet load that needs to go out shortly.
    Check in with our shipper member, gorven and see what he says on having to weigh it before shipping. I say because I have been shipping pallets for a while and I give my buyer a good guess on weight and he tells me about what it will cost. When I drop off my pallet at the shipping company, I think its YRC was Yellow Freight. They weigh the pallet and do their paper work for it then and there.

    Now as far as being a buyer, as most of us are at least sometimes, having a good scale is a great thing to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    Not weighing there. It is either going to be based on the scale from my buyer or my own scale, if I finally pull that trigger. Been debating a 4x4 floor scale for a while. It's tough shipping LTL wit out one. You either need to have small boxes, or weigh stuff as you fill a gaylord or pallet. I have a 3 or 4 pallet load that needs to go out shortly.
    after this wire load you should be able to get that floor scale. Were you able to go out and see the wire yet? Most of us around here are excited to see what you have and how it ends up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    after this wire load you should be able to get that floor scale. Were you able to go out and see the wire yet? Most of us around here are excited to see what you have and how it ends up!
    Tommorrow night I'm looking at it. Been a busy week. Pickup last night, pickup tonight, load of computers in the morning, this tomorrow night. Pickup Saturday morning. Still have to get back to one of the computer shops. Combine that with a full time job and my son playing football (3 practices and a game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    Tommorrow night I'm looking at it. Been a busy week. Pickup last night, pickup tonight, load of computers in the morning, this tomorrow night. Pickup Saturday morning. Still have to get back to one of the computer shops. Combine that with a full time job and my son playing football (3 practices and a game).
    Yep football games are rough my daughter was in marching band 3 practices a week at night and the game on Friday and then they had competitions normally out of town on Saturdays! But they were fun times and taught her how to manage her time in order to get homework and projects done and still do well in school. Like sports if you had bad grades you could not play at the game.

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    OK, update time. Owner was not available last night, but gave me the address and said to go take a look. I had different thoughts on the way down. Why would he give the the address of something worth many thousands of dollars and allow me on the property when he wasn't there, without ever having met me. I went anyways.
    Pile looks bigger in person. There is a bunch of aluminum, up to 3/0 from what I saw. A bunch of romex, some heavier stuff. Huge amount if THHN. saw a little bit of 4\0 and a little bit of 300KCM. There is also some aluminum BX. THHN is going to be a little difficult because there is some cat 5 and 6, along with communication wire mixed in.

    I'll try to post more photos and a video later.

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    Is most of the big pile baled up down inside?
    I have a feeling there's going to be a big tangle or two,perhaps a few hundred lbs, that may not be worth separating and sold as mixed. I would figure not being able to separate all of it without spending a good bit of time.
    4900 lbs, but hope it's more than that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHscrapman View Post
    Is most of the big pile baled up down inside?
    I have a feeling there's going to be a big tangle or two,perhaps a few hundred lbs, that may not be worth separating and sold as mixed. I would figure not being able to separate all of it without spending a good bit of time.
    4900 lbs, but hope it's more than that!
    nothing is baled

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    Sorry
    I meant the loops of wire that are taped or tied off. The back pile seemed to have more of this type while the front pile seemed pretty much loose wire and a big tangled mess.

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    Another thing to consider, and I don't think anyone mentioned this yet ... does this guy work for himself as a contractor? Or does he work for another outfit?

    I wen back and looked at the pics again. Anyone who is working as a contractor, probably would have used a good portion of that on jobs which would make them more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    OK, update time. Owner was not available last night, but gave me the address and said to go take a look. I had different thoughts on the way down. Why would he give the the address of something worth many thousands of dollars and allow me on the property when he wasn't there, without ever having met me. I went anyways.
    Pile looks bigger in person. There is a bunch of aluminum, up to 3/0 from what I saw. A bunch of romex, some heavier stuff. Huge amount if THHN. saw a little bit of 4\0 and a little bit of 300KCM. There is also some aluminum BX. THHN is going to be a little difficult because there is some cat 5 and 6, along with communication wire mixed in.

    I'll try to post more photos and a video later.
    Here is the link to my facebook page with a video of the wire. I will also put up more photos.

    https://www.facebook.com/MTDewaste/?...homepage_panel
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipoGear View Post
    Another thing to consider, and I don't think anyone mentioned this yet ... does this guy work for himself as a contractor? Or does he work for another outfit?

    I wen back and looked at the pics again. Anyone who is working as a contractor, probably would have used a good portion of that on jobs which would make them more money.
    He is the owner / contractor. I also did a double take and questioned why some wire was tossed. Maybe it is more of a hassle to bring all the small (to us) lengths to a job in hopes of using them.

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    That's one big A$$ed pile of wire. Good luck I hope it works out for you. Don't forget you are doing him a service removing it. He won't have to do it himself of pay one of his employees to do it. 73, Mike

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    You should offer a lump sum payment and then remove it. This method works for me, and is usually the most profitable.
    Obviously the owner is looking for some quick cash. I personally would offer 450$ and go to 500$ in a pinch. Make it worth your time.

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    I would offer a lil less than half of what the scrap yards are giving, the prices here are dropping a bit. He prolly knows what it's worth but you figure he's selling because he's getting cash and your doing all the work not to mention cleaning his mess up for him, I would say that's the main reason he's wanting to sell anyway

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    So WTF happened on this wire deal.

    If your gonna start something, finish it.

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