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  1. 04-10-2013, 06:58 AM #1
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    need advice: welder scrap

    So ive been looking at this add since December and i finally have enough cash to make an offer. But first i'd like to see what you guys think. I've done what reasearch i can on this behemoth and all i could find out is that it was made between the 30s and 50s. I know that many members will tell me to preserve this item but due to its size (see pool filter to left of pic for reference) i don't see it having a very high value as either a collectable or as a usable welder.
    So what do you guys thing is this thing a copper mine on wheels or is thing big just for the sake of being big?
    ELECTRIC ANTIQUE WELDER
    PS i do plan to have a look inside before shelling out anything close to his asking price.

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  3. 04-10-2013, 07:10 AM #2
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    It wont come close to $500 in scrap. I've torn down some big welders that disappointed me in the amount of copper. There might be more copper in those cables than in the welder.
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    That's what i was afraid of. On the other hand i also have trouble believing that this unit is mostly empty space. It just wouldnt make sense from a manufacturing standpoint.
    EDIT: through a little more research ive found out that this is a "dc generator welder" which i am not at all familiar with. Could what im reading really be telling me that its round because theres a large motor inside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JapScrap View Post
    That's what i was afraid of. On the other hand i also have trouble believing that this unit is mostly empty space. It just wouldnt make sense from a manufacturing standpoint.
    No. But I've seen it done. I once tore down a welder on wheels that was about 2x2x4 feet with windings no bigger than my two fists put together.

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    Usually only round 30-40 pounds of clean copper in any welder. And the newer ones are aluminum so buying a welder to scrap can be tricky. If you cannot buy the Welders for less than 30$ each don't mess with it.
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    Age really doesn't matter that much imo when it comes to alum vs. copper windings. It just seems to be random. I've had welders from I would say the 60's or 70's that were aluminum. I've also had relatively new ones with copper. Your results may be different /shrug.
  11. 04-10-2013, 06:52 PM #7
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    Not worth the 5 bills I can tell you. Listen to Mick,very sound advice!
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    Not worth it..

    I've been in the welding business for a few years even owned a Wilson Hornet ....Good machine but only worth 150 at the most...

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    If you've been watching that ad since December, that should clue you in to it not being worth any where near $500 4 1/2 months later.

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  16. 04-11-2013, 02:51 AM #10
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    Why would you even think about shelling out 500.00 for something that you know nothing about? I wouldn't pay 5.00 for that thing, after time and gas you would lucky to make 5.00. my .02

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  18. 05-01-2013, 02:06 AM #11
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    The make 50 volt DC + or - about 5 volt power using a electric motor driven off the mains voltage.

    Theres the possibility that someone wanting to generate 48 DC power could use that part of the welder as a generator.

    Normally they like 48 volt generators because it can be stepped up to the line voltage of 110 AC or 240 AC by only 2 or 3 steps using a invertor. Making it more efficient than 24V or 12V.

    Otherwise they are popular as a DC power source for Arc air gouging of heavy metals. You can cut the metal using a carbon arc like welding rod & then blast compressed air under it to blow the liquid metal away.

    It'll cut thru 1/2 inch plate. Any condition.
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