Results 1 to 13 of 13

need advice: welder scrap

| Scrap Metal Tips and Advice
  1. 04-10-2013, 06:58 AM #1
    JapScrap
    JapScrap is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    JapScrap started this thread.
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Montreal,QC
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts

    need advice: welder scrap

    So ive been looking at this add since December and i finally have enough cash to make an offer. But first i'd like to see what you guys think. I've done what reasearch i can on this behemoth and all i could find out is that it was made between the 30s and 50s. I know that many members will tell me to preserve this item but due to its size (see pool filter to left of pic for reference) i don't see it having a very high value as either a collectable or as a usable welder.
    So what do you guys thing is this thing a copper mine on wheels or is thing big just for the sake of being big?
    ELECTRIC ANTIQUE WELDER
    PS i do plan to have a look inside before shelling out anything close to his asking price.

    Register to reply. Register To Reply
  2. 04-10-2013, 06:58 AM

  3. 04-10-2013, 07:10 AM #2
    Mick
    Mick is offline
    Mick's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Palermo, Me
    Posts
    3,405
    Thanks
    363
    Thanked 3,086 Times in 1,326 Posts
    It wont come close to $500 in scrap. I've torn down some big welders that disappointed me in the amount of copper. There might be more copper in those cables than in the welder.
    People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.

  4. The Following 2 Users say Thank You for This Post by Mick:

    JapScrap, JJinLV
  5. 04-10-2013, 07:18 AM #3
    JapScrap
    JapScrap is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    JapScrap started this thread.
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Montreal,QC
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts
    That's what i was afraid of. On the other hand i also have trouble believing that this unit is mostly empty space. It just wouldnt make sense from a manufacturing standpoint.
    EDIT: through a little more research ive found out that this is a "dc generator welder" which i am not at all familiar with. Could what im reading really be telling me that its round because theres a large motor inside?
    Last edited by JapScrap; 04-10-2013 at 07:40 AM.
  6. 04-10-2013, 07:23 AM #4
    Mick
    Mick is offline
    Mick's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Palermo, Me
    Posts
    3,405
    Thanks
    363
    Thanked 3,086 Times in 1,326 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by JapScrap View Post
    That's what i was afraid of. On the other hand i also have trouble believing that this unit is mostly empty space. It just wouldnt make sense from a manufacturing standpoint.
    No. But I've seen it done. I once tore down a welder on wheels that was about 2x2x4 feet with windings no bigger than my two fists put together.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Mick for This Post:

    JJinLV
  8. 04-10-2013, 10:00 AM #5
    taterjuice
    taterjuice is offline Rural scrapper
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Mar 2012
    Location
    ks
    Posts
    2,187
    Thanks
    2,513
    Thanked 2,140 Times in 898 Posts
    Usually only round 30-40 pounds of clean copper in any welder. And the newer ones are aluminum so buying a welder to scrap can be tricky. If you cannot buy the Welders for less than 30$ each don't mess with it.
    Alvord iron and salvage
    3rd generation scrapper and dam proud of it

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to taterjuice for This Post:

    JJinLV
  10. 04-10-2013, 11:11 AM #6
    zito
    zito is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    234
    Thanks
    71
    Thanked 195 Times in 90 Posts
    Age really doesn't matter that much imo when it comes to alum vs. copper windings. It just seems to be random. I've had welders from I would say the 60's or 70's that were aluminum. I've also had relatively new ones with copper. Your results may be different /shrug.
  11. 04-10-2013, 06:52 PM #7
    kbob
    kbob is offline
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    218
    Thanks
    130
    Thanked 158 Times in 60 Posts
    Not worth the 5 bills I can tell you. Listen to Mick,very sound advice!
  12. 04-10-2013, 07:08 PM #8
    PAScrapPappy
    PAScrapPappy is offline
    PAScrapPappy's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Western Pa
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 63 Times in 16 Posts

    Not worth it..

    I've been in the welding business for a few years even owned a Wilson Hornet ....Good machine but only worth 150 at the most...

  13. The Following 2 Users say Thank You for This Post by PAScrapPappy:

    JJinLV, Mechanic688
  14. 04-10-2013, 07:42 PM #9
    IdahoScrapper
    IdahoScrapper is offline
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    2,702
    Thanks
    2,237
    Thanked 2,352 Times in 1,014 Posts
    If you've been watching that ad since December, that should clue you in to it not being worth any where near $500 4 1/2 months later.

  15. The Following 3 Users say Thank You for This Post by IdahoScrapper:

    JJinLV, taterjuice, zito
  16. 04-11-2013, 02:51 AM #10
    happyscraper
    happyscraper is offline
    happyscraper's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    spring hill,fl
    Posts
    2,864
    Thanks
    350
    Thanked 1,371 Times in 847 Posts
    Why would you even think about shelling out 500.00 for something that you know nothing about? I wouldn't pay 5.00 for that thing, after time and gas you would lucky to make 5.00. my .02

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to happyscraper for This Post:

    taterjuice
  18. 05-01-2013, 02:06 AM #11
    eesakiwi
    eesakiwi is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    eesakiwi's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Dec 2010
    Location
    NZ
    Posts
    2,531
    Thanks
    2,909
    Thanked 2,556 Times in 1,227 Posts
    The make 50 volt DC + or - about 5 volt power using a electric motor driven off the mains voltage.

    Theres the possibility that someone wanting to generate 48 DC power could use that part of the welder as a generator.

    Normally they like 48 volt generators because it can be stepped up to the line voltage of 110 AC or 240 AC by only 2 or 3 steps using a invertor. Making it more efficient than 24V or 12V.

    Otherwise they are popular as a DC power source for Arc air gouging of heavy metals. You can cut the metal using a carbon arc like welding rod & then blast compressed air under it to blow the liquid metal away.

    It'll cut thru 1/2 inch plate. Any condition.
    Last edited by eesakiwi; 05-01-2013 at 02:10 AM.
  19. 05-01-2013, 08:52 AM #12
    poundigity24
    poundigity24 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor
    Member since
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Jersey Shore
    Posts
    203
    Thanks
    75
    Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts
    The welding cable is where the real money is.
    YOSF (You Only Scrap Forever)
    YOLO (You Only Live Once)

  20. The Following User Says Thank You to poundigity24 for This Post:

    Mick
  21. 05-07-2013, 03:51 PM #13
    andrew1
    andrew1 is offline Banned
    Member since
    Dec 2012
    Location
    57250 Rosell, near New Haven, Michigan
    Posts
    17
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Get updates about latest scrap metal prices online for car scrap, copper scrap, brass scrap etc on
    Your Phone or email.Keep your self update with best scrap prices with basic metals
    Register to reply. Register To Reply

    22. Similar threads on the Scrap Metal Forum

    1. Work in progress: Portable welder/genset/air compressor
      By MilitiaMetals in forum Tools and Equipment
      Replies: 27
      Last Post: 02-20-2018, 02:05 PM
    2. Does anyone use a welder to cut metal?
      By newattitude in forum Tools and Equipment
      Replies: 11
      Last Post: 01-27-2014, 07:03 PM
    3. Antique welder
      By Immulmen in forum A Day in the Life of a Scrapper
      Replies: 10
      Last Post: 03-09-2013, 12:50 PM
    4. Need some urgent cellphone advice and shipping advice
      By mascraps in forum Scrap Metal Tips and Advice
      Replies: 15
      Last Post: 08-26-2012, 09:07 AM
    5. scrapping a welder-any advice?
      By pwa in forum Scrap Metal Questions and Answers
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 05-15-2012, 08:27 AM

« Scrap water meters???? | I Need A Wire Stripping Machine »

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

 
Browse the Most Recent Threads
On SMF In THIS CATEGORY.




OR

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Forum Rules


The Scrap Metal Forum

    The Scrap Metal Forum is the #1 scrap metal recycling community in the world. Here we talk about the scrap metal business, making money, where we connect with other scrappers, scrap yards and more.

SMF Recommended Links

SMF on Facebook and Twitter

Twitter Facebook