The thin stuff from appliance cords isn't worth it in my opinion. It takes way too long for too little copper.
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The thin stuff from appliance cords isn't worth it in my opinion. It takes way too long for too little copper.
There's nothing more fun and more effective than hitting something repeatedly with a sledgehammer
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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I'm sure covered or stripped if you got this load of wire for 300.00 you'd make out pretty good http://asset-auctions.assetnation.co...er/A39603-0103 look at the pic of it in the skid.
New Guy
I have a spool of 14/2 cl3 direct burial speaker wire. Would it be worth my time to strip it or sell it unstripped? First time with copper wiring. If I should strip it I will but I'm just worried it won't weigh much after I strip it.
Hi, welcome to the forum. I see you've be searching the old threads. First please go to the introductions section as do a quick introduction.
The wire stipping thing has been beat to death so I will give you what I believe is the most complete answer. Its all up to you.
Generally you will put more money in your pocket if you stripe insulated wire and sell the copper as #1 or #2 depending on the size. Now if you are stipping wire while you have nothing else to do your labor is free. If you could better utilze you time then don't stipe. Thats why I say its up to you.
Now to better educate yourself I suggest your buy a cheap postal scale, if you don't already have a good scale. Do a before and after weight and see for yourself if it was worth you time. Mike.
"Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}
Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked
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From what I've seen on this thread, there are really 2 questions:
1) When is it worth it to strip wire?
2) Is it legal to burn wire and sell the product that results?
With regard to #1, IF you are including your time in the equation, then it is only worth stripping the wire if the recovery is above 50%. I only strip wire that is above 80% recovery at our yard. My labor cost for anything less is simply not worth it. You need to be someone like HighVoltage with a chopper to make money processing the lower grade stuff.
As far as the burned wire question, it is illegal to burn wire intentionally for the purpose of recovering the copper. It is illegal to purchase burned communications wire without a letter from a fire marshal stating that it was recovered from an actual site of a legitimate fire. Burned wire itself may still be purchased, however it generally goes for a lower price than #2.
Hope that sheds a little bit of light on the subject.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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Texas Ordinance '111.209. Exception for Disposal FiresOriginally Posted by Kris Kringle
U.S. Attorney’s Office and are punishable under provisions of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA) and under Title 18 offenses applicable to public lands. Fines can be as high as $250,000 for an individual and $500,000 for an organization or imprisonment up to 10 years, or both.
Just some friendly advice. Think about the fact that you just admitted to breaking the law (even though you were unaware of it) on a public forum.
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Yards near me are not allowed to purchase burnt copper; I have a feeling this will become the norm as time increases. There are short-cuts to profit but not without repercussions. Things like cutting freon lines in AC's, burning copper, trowing TV glass in the landfill, etc, will only bring unneeded negative attention to scrappers. If were not careful, you may see future legislation that prevents scrap yards from buying scrap from anyone without proper certifications. These things are already discussed in some environmental forums.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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Yards near me are not allowed to purchase burnt copper; I have a feeling this will become the norm as time increases. There are short-cuts to profit but not without repercussions. Things like cutting freon lines in AC's, burning copper, trowing TV glass in the landfill, etc, will only bring unneeded negative attention to scrappers. If were not careful, you may see future legislation that prevents scrap yards from buying scrap from anyone without proper certifications. These things are already discussed in some environmental forums.[/QUOTE]
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Sorry about that. Here is the website and it the first article on the page
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scoundrel
I just read something today that said burning copper wire reduces the weight (of the copper itself) by about 30%.
Article didn't explain how or why.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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When you burn wire you will also lose weight due to the wire losing its strength from the heat and it can become brittle and just turn to ashes.
Experienced Scrapper
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Kris Kringle does not need defending...but since he hasn't chimed in I'll say this....the post in which he admitted to burning wire is over a year old. After discussing this ad nauseum, he may have discontinued this method. Please refrain from dissing our Kris Kringle until you learn that he has continued that practice. He is a valued and respected member of this forum. I would like to urge newer members to take note of the dates of posts and threads before you post.
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Well said, Dee. Well said.
AMERICAN BORN, AMERICAN BRED! AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!
Experienced Scrapper
I mostly burn copper wires, especially so thin
I'm new to this, so this was the simplest method, but I was always wondering when the wires were burned is it lose weight?
In my country the cost of burnished and peeled copper is exactly the same.
This is a new rule that lasts for longer than a year.
In the period before that the price of peeled and burned was huge difference today the price are the same so it is the easiest to burn
If anyone please tell me if I'm wrong when I burn it instead of stripping it, except for air pollution and my lungs
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What is the price selling it as is? Yes you lose weight striping and burning, so do the math... I would think only worth it for larger wiresI mostly burn copper wires, especially so thin
I'm new to this, so this was the simplest method, but I was always wondering when the wires were burned is it lose weight?
In my country the cost of burnished and peeled copper is exactly the same.
This is a new rule that lasts for longer than a year.
In the period before that the price of peeled and burned was huge difference today the price are the same so it is the easiest to burn
If anyone please tell me if I'm wrong when I burn it instead of stripping it, except for air pollution and my lungs
Experienced Scrapper
3.85 dollar for kg copper
is the price fair?
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Price for un stripped or burnt?
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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It depends on what the available competition is paying. Contact other buyers in your area and you will soon see whether or not the price offered is fair.
Experienced Scrapper
as I wrote before the price in my country was the same cleaned or burned
3.85 usd for kg
And just to say if I go to the scrap yard I get some 3 .20 usd and after tax I get less than 3 usd
so now my metal is sold to Gypsies who pay 3.85. per kg of copper
I was always interested in how much a gypsy earns when he sells it and what he gets for a kilo and I wonder who he is selling it because an authorized house as I said has less than 3 usd and he gives me 3.85.
Experienced Scrapper
Only one house buying metals in my small country and gypsies who pay better
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