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    organ!

    my advice, if its close by, and free (broken obviously you could sell a working one for more), take. There is some money to be made in them, pics coming soon, that is all....



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    I've taken a couple apart before- different levels of make/model. One had a bunch of transformers , aluminum,etc. One had not as much.
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    I took apart one and that was enough!

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    I took one apart just for a learning experience, it was worth it.

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    I would imagine that the model does matter, some of you have told me to look for leslie speakers to sell, mine didnt have any but it has two big nice speakers, no markings on them though, generic.....worth trying to sell?? value??

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    That could really vary Jenn, it should have something in ohms on back of the magnet, that might help a little. Are they in boxes or separate? It's quite an undertaking to mount speakers to a new box, almost an art, I have a hardback dedicated totally to building speaker boxes, and takes it almost to a science. Unless someone isn't particular, or is looking for just that speaker, or for just that organ, or just that size and ohm, it might not be much
    Good luck either way, and Happy New Year
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    thanks, they are just open...they were just attached to the inside of the particle board on the inside of the organ, backs open. Happy new year!

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    There's a flip side to selling those speakers Jenn, you said they were nice speakers, and as long as you can figure out what ohm they are, or hopefully find a mark on them, you could use em yourself or give em to a friend, maybe even swap em for some scrap boards or something. The ohms mark looks kind of like an inverted horseshoe beside a number 2, 4, 8, 16 etc, and it's best to match numbers when swapping them out, adding them on etc.
    They can go in the shop, on another stereo or TV, maybe even in a car if the size matches. They go by 4", 6" 8" 6x9" etc. Depending on the organ it probly has good sound. Speakers are kinda where the rubber meets the road, and usually have pretty good sound, so placed in the right system and in the right setting they can do well. They don't have to be fancy just for add on or replacement. Sometimes the wood piece it was mounted into can be removed and used in it's new home. A simple plywood enclosure would work, just fill the back part with insulation and let'er rip. I used a heavy cardboard box one time to hold an 8" speaker from an office building system, cut a round hole in the box, packed it good with insulation, stuck the speaker in there and screwed the cover onto the speaker and it was mounted. Had a hell of a sound too. Gave it to a friend who had a Volkswagon Beetle and he hooked it up to his radio, this was back when car radios had a single speaker, usually in the middle of the dashboard. It made a nice boombox in that little bug.
    There's really lots you can do with speakers besides just sell em

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    organ!

    to make a simple SEALED box use a router with a plunge bit (3/8 endmills work as well but need a hole drilled first and 1/2 horse router. these also chip wood more. if they are round speakers they have a radius tool. for 6x9 style use the same tools and measure radius and distance on flat. cut the smaller half circles and then the straight line. you then use same router and change bits. recess the speaker 1/4 inch to hide them. use sillicon to seal speaker down before screwing it in. use a nice black cloth streched tight to cover, stapled to back board.

    for rest of box just use router and run a square 90 degree the size of front panel and do the edges as well so it fits tight. with the edge recessed you can then drop back in. glue and screw togeather.

    buy the terminal connectors from radio shack and drill back accordingly. solder or crimp terminals from speakers to terminal you added or salvaged. take sillicon and seal box with back off as well as around terminal added to the back board. let dry then add cotton batting. ( walmart or craft store thhat sells fabrics) around box. spray adheasive is nice but not required. do same for back pannel. screw on back.

    stain or carpet accordingly. car trunk carpet works nice.

    just a note on wood. 3/4 mdf or particle board is best for sound (treadmills provide a very heavy duty piece and works great. you can use hardwood as well but it changes tone.

    the cotton batting is to allow higher wattage and dampen the sound wave reverb in the box to produce truer sound. it also allows the sound of a bigger box in tighter space and covers up some builder error.

    as said above the ohm is important as it can ruin the speaker or stereo / amp. also start low powered and slowly go higher and you can guess wattage. ohm. can be detirmined with a multimeter. wattage is trial and error without some identification. try looking up organ model specs. this can help you figure out the size for the box as well. no less than 2 inches smaller than speaker.

    fyi boxes built like this can handle in excess of 5-10k watts if speaker and head unit / amp can handle or produce it so you have no worrys about box being ruined by high wattage. it will out last the speakers.

    i have built many like this for home and car use.

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    most home stereos run 8 ohm per speaker while a lot of car units run 4 ohm. some competition amps can safely run 2, 1 or 1/2 ohm.
    the power is almost double if you go from 8 ohm speaker to a 4 ohm, it frees the amp up and allows it to produce more.

    Our one store I sold some car audio on the side while the wife rented movies and I used a Kenwood home stereo and amp combined. I had built a set of 15" for my demo and when I would turn it up to about 1/3 on the volume the speakers were moving a few inches thumping and my picture window in my store was moving about 2-3" . Made for a good demo.
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    organ!

    they also use 6ohm speakers on home audio and in car tweeters / front speakers. many surrounds use these oddballs. i also see them on 70s-80s high end recievers with multiple channels.

    they also make 8 ohm car audio amps and speakers. they produce clearer sound than the other lower ohm.

    as a rule the higher the ohm the cleaner the sound. as for sound level pa speakers are higher ohm normally 8s and currently can match or better the volume and sound pressure with LESS amperage.

    chances are this the type of speaker you are dealing with. a pa or loud speaker type. if it takes low wattage to produce good volume this would be true.

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    Leslie speaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (not enuf time to add details)

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