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    Cutting large quanities of copper bundles

    I've acquired a very large industrial chiller unit. Unit weighs 34000lbs and has roughly 5000lbs of copper tubing. I'm wondering what would be the best way to cut the copper out of it. It has 2 round bundles with roughly 300, 30ft long tubes. The last one we did, we used a chop saw with a metal blade. It cut the copper ok but I had a ton of waste at the ends where I couldn't get the saw close enough. Was wondering about a plasma? I had someone suggest a chainsaw but I'm not sure about that. Thanks for any help.



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    How thick is the copper? 1/8 inch maybe? An ocilating tool would work and you could get flush with the steel plate, it would be way slower than your chopsaw tho. But lees waste. I'm assuming your using a gas powered concrete saw and to be honest that would be the fastest route.

    This is the same model that I have

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    1/8 at most, probably a tad bit smaller. There about 1" in diameter but they are almost touching each other so I would be cutting several at one time. I'll take a look at that oscillating saw. Thanks

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    I was also thinking about a electric or air powered hammer with a chisel bit.

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    Air chisel will work, if you go the ocilating route it's like anything else, spend the money for good blades. Good blades on a bad saw is better than bad blades on a good saw and that goes for any kind of saw

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    Have you tried a sawzall with a 16 inch demolition blade?

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    I have but not with a demolition blade, just a metal blade. The problem with it is the same as the chop saw. The bundles are about 3ft I diameter and you can only cut so far in before the saw gets into the metal end plate. Then you have to move out a couple of inches to get the clearance. By the time I make it through the bundle I have 10" of copper still left in the chiller.

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    Not to sidetrack but good to see you joe even tho it's just typing

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    We do a lot of chillers, the best way we have found is to use a torch, the guides that hold the copper tubing in place have to be removed also,some times they are a hard plastic some times tin.I can not see using a hand held saw of any kind It will just take you too much time.I do not know what size chiller you got but I think you are way off on your copper recovery.chillers are grade by the unit ton not the actual weight of the unit.

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    I'll be honest, I've never done one but I've seen them dropped off at the yard, and as they made the cuts with the saw the farther they went in the more waste they have. I don't know how much it would weigh but if he is right on his measurements he has around 9000 feet of copper, if it's weighs 1/2 a lb a foot it would be close tho

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    Did a chiller couple of weeks ago posted trend, cut two barrels recovered 1500 lbs copper just about,I will try to repost the pic of the barrels
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    if you go the chainsaw route please post the video

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    Go buy a carbide or diamond grit chainsaw chain, you need "cutting fluid" instead of chainsaw oil in the reservoir. I have one, haven't used it in a good while, it CAN be slow but it's next to ZERO consumable waste other than fuel and with a 20" bar there isn't much of anything I can't cut. It is NOT designed for structural components so you guys with other ideas think again, its made for pipe, tubing and so forth, meaning PERFECT for a chiller.

    I also want to bring up that the chainsaw needs a slight modification so it will "oil" the chain at about 3 times the rate
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1956 View Post
    Did a chiller couple of weeks ago posted trend, cut two barrels recovered 1500 lbs copper just about,I will try to repost the pic of the barrels
    Mine are 2 to 3 times that big. Yeah I was talking total weigh. It showed about 36000lbs on the crane hook.

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    So we got one side of this thing done today. It has more copper than I originally thought. 11000ft in one side. I'm guessing 7000lbs total. Believe it or not the chainsaw worked great with the standard chain. It actually cut faster than our big stihl chop saw. I'll report back when we get this weighed Monday.

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    First barrel had 3700lbs of copper in it. Nice little chunk of money for a day's work.

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    If you could take some pic's and post them of the copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travistemple202020 View Post
    if you go the chainsaw route please post the video
    If i could figure out how to post videos i would show you the video i took of me cutting a copper/aluminum coil with my Stihl MS250. It cuts like butter. But i knicked the steel plate near the end of the cut cut and tore the blade up. I would recommend this method to any one. But be advised you better have a good saw and the bars/chains you use will be unable to cut through wood ever again. Also you better hold that thing like your life depends on it. Every time you cut through a tube you will feel the saw bounce just slightly, if it pinches the wrong way or you knick something more solid you better be ready for it.

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    yes, pics pls...or it never happened


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