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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    This entire thread has been very educational. Does anyone on the forum just burn the insulation off the wire? It is known that you do not want to get it to hot, because you loose volume and weight. And since it is not politically correct, most scrappers would not admit to it. This was the preferred method in days gone by. Just curious.

    Thanks for every ones insight.
    My yards don't want burnt wire anymore.


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    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg2OTcxNzU2.html

    how they recycle insulated wire
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrapping4ever View Post
    My yards don't want burnt wire anymore.
    Might be lucky in this part of the country. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg2OTcxNzU2.html

    how they recycle insulated wire
    This video shows how complicated our lives have gotten with technology, inventions, and regulation. Not complaining by any means. Interesting and educational but I still prefer the simple life. It is not as stressful on the brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    This entire thread has been very educational. Does anyone on the forum just burn the insulation off the wire? It is known that you do not want to get it to hot, because you loose volume and weight. And since it is not politically correct, most scrappers would not admit to it. This was the preferred method in days gone by. Just curious.

    Thanks for every ones insight.
    The history of this forum has been burning of anything, including insulated wire, is very much condemed. I recall 10+ years ago a salvageyard in a small city near by would burn wire at the yard. Today they would be arrested for it.

    I realise you asked a question and was not recommending someone burn insulated wire. Mike
    Last edited by miked; 09-10-2014 at 11:50 PM.
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Very good incite from the inside. Welcome aboard, from Florida.
    "anyone who thinks scrappin is easy money ain't doin it right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    This entire thread has been very educational. Does anyone on the forum just burn the insulation off the wire? It is known that you do not want to get it to hot, because you loose volume and weight. And since it is not politically correct, most scrappers would not admit to it. This was the preferred method in days gone by. Just curious.

    Thanks for every ones insight.
    Patriot,

    In Massachusetts, the yards are not supposed to (I repeat not supposed to, but do) buy burnt wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalRecycler View Post
    mthomasdev,

    Sorry, I just scrolled up and saw your price list, that's where I got confused.

    Anyway, after looking at those prices, I would say that the dealer you are selling to is making about $0.35 per pound off of your #1 Copper. However, he is probably putting together 40,000 lbs at a time and commands the volume to get the price. He also has equipment, labor costs, fuel costs, freight cost, etc. needed to keep his doors open. I think that is a fairly decent price on #1 for a small dealer. If you were shipping him mixed 40,000 pound lots of materials (that is all kinds of non-ferrous on one trailer) I would expect you to get somewhere around $2.95 for your #1 CU. He is treating you the same on the rest of your metals. I think you are getting a fair deal if you are a small dealer (one man operation with a truck & trailer who comes regularly.)

    It absolutely all depends on the volume though. This is a volume game. Increase your volume and doors will open.
    MR,

    I don't see stripped wire or low grade to this company, only Romex, THHN, alarm, Tin-C and Steel-BX. I get better prices on everything else at other yards. This company only buys what was on that list. They are actually a sister company to an electronic recycling company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    MR,

    I don't see stripped wire or low grade to this company, only Romex, THHN, alarm, Tin-C and Steel-BX. I get better prices on everything else at other yards. This company only buys what was on that list. They are actually a sister company to an electronic recycling company.
    MR,

    Forgot to mention that this company will come and pick up anywhere in the state (free of charge) if you have over 100 pounds of material.

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    All the old scrappers in my area tell story's of burning piles of wire at the town Incinerator, what is now a transfer station. Was not to bad burning a little wire insulation next to the furnace that burned everything that the town threw away.
    As a kid I remember every Thursday if the wind was to the north the whole town would stink...
    Back then local manufacturers also dumped truckloads of copper and brass into the metal pile... also no more
    I talked to the owner of the yard i frequent about how he wanted his insulated wire separated, he gave me three categories, I asked about percentages.. with a smile he said you know a lot more than most people coming in, who is teaching you? The best in the biz i replied.. to which i got a hrmpph and a laugh... if he only knew
    There ain't nothing wrong with an honest days work. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.- Old Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    This video shows how complicated our lives have gotten with technology, inventions, and regulation. Not complaining by any means. Interesting and educational but I still prefer the simple life. It is not as stressful on the brain.
    I don't think they process the wire like the video here in the USA. Not sure that they even process it here. And if they do there would be a lot of safety regulations and such. Heck if you buy a power cord it has a warning about lead in the state of California!

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    My dad works in the restoration business from water/fire ect. So I get quite a bit of burnt wire from jobs and some is badly burnt some is just smoke damaged but my yard will buy it like that, I don't bother stripping it when it's melted up like that. **starts building wire processing plant In basement**

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    Great insight thanks for the tip


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