Good discussion. The lead inst the problem. We have many more pounds of lead and were driving around and crashing them. THats our batteries. The lead acid battery is a closed loop program the lead acid battery is totaling 50 billion dollars in one year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

99 percent of the 50 billion dollar market is recycled from an existing lead acid battery. Lead acid batteries are the poster child of almost near perfect closed loop recycling perfection. Yes the smelters may release some stuff but they got that under control why. Every single internal combustion engine and or power source relys on lead acid starting batteries to start. Try to start your cop fire personal car with out a lead acid battery. Try storing the power from Niagra falls if its peak time and your down or you need more power its stored in lead. When the power crashes on the Net or the NSA or the White house war room. You guess it lead acid. And even better no other chemistry is like lead Why do you think 10 decade old tech is state of the art. Lithium ion when you use the battery its turned into a battery that yes can be recycled but no not profitably. The salts or what ever is the dead state of a lipo batt is not worth recycling profitably with out a ton of chemistry and cost. Its the truth. So the industry has a standard for the most recycled post consumer product ever. The lead acid battery. My baby .lol.

Now crt glass had a post consumer pipl line like batteries. But junk lead acid batteries are being used to make all new batteries. No lead is mined anymore folks. Its mined as a by product of other desirable, but not just for lead. There is 300mt or something in above ground warehouse stock right now on the London Exchange, why mine underground supply. All the easy lead is gone.............its in batteries.

All this planets use for power all the power we need now to power cars, traction, standby and when the newer more expensive chemistrys like lithium drive up because were using all the free rare earth metals and no more left guess what we need more lead. Technically lead is in a really good position for the next 50 years barring any unforseen power storage that at 12 volts can push 1000 amps. Look at your batt cable move under load and its size of your thumb compared to your cellphone charger cord and you will start to understand why lead is still king of current. No snake oil here.

Why the post about batts when were talking crt. Because im showing you something thats really weird. Look at batts, as many lead acid batteries you can recover for me I can get paid on each one. If you had 1 million pounds of lead acid a month we could get paid on them. The battery scrap is lead plastic and water. They need it to make more lead acid batteries. The lead acid battery companies are the biggest monopolies in the world. I love old capitalistic take take take and provide a service and if the government says whats up with your monopoly you say hey your not complaining when you start your car. IE Standard oil and Rockefella. (well old Aaron. My new creature in Christ doenst care about money anymore he provides what I need)

THis battery thing is what crt was before the lcd screen. They recycled them into new CRT for your memere and pepere to watch in the 1970's!

So your worried about a crt screen, that lead is locked up way better than a battery. One grp 65 is 25 pounds of soft soft dusty lead paste. Id worry more about seeing a battery in the woods rather than a tv but none are acceptable but because batteries have a small value now they are reclaimed and not in the back yard ruing your water. Crt no luck. No one wants them. even though its still lead. Still a product that kills and not a fun way. Lead poisoning is the worst. you slowly slowly accumulate it and guess what you never know until your nervous system stops working well you get very cranky, tired, lossing memory your body cant send signals between its Neurons (gates) well and when you get tested guess what the lead is gone because its such a small amount it was never there. LOL Any amount i mean nano what ever a deci what ever is too much. NOw your left with its effects for ever and no way to prove it or anything. To live for me now is Christ. Im working for the finer things in life................

I love recycling batteries its a necessary evil. Done well it can and will provide a near perfect solution. But what the Basel action network is talking about in other countries happens here. Right here in our USA people like me were doing what is acceptable and what is the standard with out knowing its killing them...... all for money. So I see my recycling business and think, Im making a new novel way to contain these batteries. I've touched millions of them and always didnt like whats happen but its the standard and like scrap theft you make it to regulated you cant profit and now it all stops and goes underground. Thats the worst case right illegal recycling for profit of hazardous material. IE maybe some rare earths and Nuclear stuff. Believe me you dont want to know how many times the last one the big N stuff goes on that shouldn't and the people that have the tech know and the warning bells and whistles are going off all over the world but one country can not police the world. IT makes me think we gota get right with the LORD, another 50 years the world will be very different. I hope and pray Our country stays on top. For the sake of the world we should be right now writting your elected officials not to raise or lower a toll both or the same with a tax or complain about their salary on beacon hill going up. IT should. The goverment knows it got a big job coming up. The world is growing faster everywhere else and they are sovereign countries that are workign with us now but dont forgot some want our heads cut off or others need us so bad because we buy all their exports, what happens when they dont need us and we want to police their nuclear or data or people exports. Dont forget how before this last 100 years one boat 100 people could kill 90 percent of a race with a disease they just didnt see before or have resistance.

different world guys and gals. Im happy to recycle with you to make enough to have a place to live or take my kids to softball games but Im preparing for the next life. I will say sorry for my Jesus thing but Ive worked with enough killers (lead and heroin) that I recognize before most when a new trend is happening and we all are too busy working to feed our families we cant think beyond our money and health issues. This is devils work. The distraction..

So the crt its got lead and huge supply. Ill do the numbers in the next post. Lots of money to be made!! If you can midigate the cost of disposing the crt glass (Like guy in CA did) you can source and I mean be paid to take tvs and then scrap out the small other stuff and whats left a ton of money less the crt glass to dispose.

I know there is a solution. Is there anyone out there who is really able to push all the other bs aside and has a dream that they know they are being held back because they dont have the resources. Tell me and Ill pray for you. Im at home writing this long post because My kids and wife I have a hard time chilling with because Ive always recycled and paid the bills. Now my system is almost near perfect I could hammer this lead battery and crt recycling and profit but guess what I refuse to do it the old way. the old way that is the standard I dont agree with and Im living proof money isnt all its cracked up to be. Im leaning on god, there is a better way to recycle lead and I hope this forum can lead me the right way. I have no capital but a track record of millions and millions of pounds recycled alone the normal way thank god with no majors!! I propose a better way to collect and ship to the smelters lead acid batteries. Problem is I wont be able to pay for them anymore. Will junk yards forgo getting paid for their batteries to ensure they are shipped and handled better. It would have to change a whole industry one that is huge and very set in its way. So much so the feds cant change these guys.... feds need batts lol and that would be a nice case. USA vs battery co monoply and battery lose.. fed gov loses all its ability to start cars back up your conversation with your wife today on your ride home (lol its for national security, im serious praise the lord, we can have freedom of religion here plus the other 25).

So lets figure out this crt thing and add it to anyones lead acid recycling battery program. Any scrapper who has seen the markets dry up and want work Hopefully Ill be hiring because I know when Im able to turn against the tide of how batteries are recycled now there will be alot of work. From New England to CALI each and every car has a pb battery and it will die soon. I want to touch that battery with my driven by saftey and with consideration for life, not just profit. Oh I dindt meantion lead paint. Another huge issue its going into landfills I think. but again like crt could be put through refiners that do batts process with a few other processes but it takes the margin out of the profits. Who cares lead is crazy ass cool but sick element. I have had a love hate relationship with it for 8 years. I love it but to think such a small amount like a one big mistake one time in your lung or blood can give a gift that keeps giving it kills me too. Ideas you guys spit them out. THis fourm could start a whole new way to deal with the most recycled consumer product by percent. Serious. And make us money we can all get batteries in our waste streams we can make money and do it right but someone has to pay for it maybe upfront or somene has to make money on the back right. OHHH now Im tired.

Good nite scrap forums, this site made me so much extra money its a wealth of info. SOrry for my long posts! Aaron with STillwater Recycling LEOMINSTER Ma