Just traded in my 4 door sedan, for a truck! need truck scrapping tips! - Page 2

Originally Posted by blackgold12

If you plan on towing, you should choose the V6 Tow Package. It includes a class IV receiver hitch with the trailer wiring but most importantly it includes a transmission cooler, engine oil cooler, 130 amp alternator and heavy duty battery. With the tow package, the Tacoma can tow as much as 6,500 pounds.



Class V

1. Class V hitches are weight carrying (WC) and weight distributing (WD) hitches depending on the vehicle and hitch specifications.
2. Class V hitches used as weight carrying are rated up to 12,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1200 lbs.
3. Class V hitches used for weight distributing are rated up to 17,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1700 lbs.
4. Your ball mount and hitch ball need to both be rated for Class V to safely tow these weight loads. To use this class of hitch for weight distribution requires a weight distribution system.
5. A Class V hitch has a 2-1/2" square receiver opening.
6. Class V hitches attach to the vehicle frame only.
   

I didnt/dont plan on towing. If I do it will be infrequently most likley. Its just nice to have the option, with my current vehicle, as my last one was not rated to tow at all.

Originally Posted by mikeinreco

Choose your friend wisely.........They will expect part of the pay once they see you bringing in those big bucks!!

expecting a part of the payout is fair if u contributed a fair amount of time, effort etc towards helping you get paid.

other than that, if u have ppl working with you, its wiser to clearly decide in advance, how much/what percentage they are entitled to etc.

though the best is to work alone as far as possible and take along an assistant only when absolutely necessary...and that too, try not to let them know too much about how much u earned.

when i use an assistant, i make sure he doesnt see my receipt and does not know what i got paid.
i just slip him what hes entitled to and thats as far as it goes with him and my money.
i prefer not to have an assistant thats TOO sharp, if u catch my drift- they just need to be intelligent/competent enough to complete the tasks i give them.

Originally Posted by kss

As far as GVW, the manual say I can have 1150 payload. which for the size of the truck, seems reasonable. I know technically that includes my weight+all gear, but if I have 1200lb in the bed, I would assume it would most likly be OK. But I will be sure not to push it too much too often.

"headache rack" I have been looking for this term to figure out what to google to find these lol... thanks for that! I was considering making my own also out of some metal stuff I have around.

I have a few red flags on my list of things to get. My bed does have 2 D rings in the back corners and 2 in the front PLUS 2 cleats on each side at the top of the bed that are adjustable, and I got some more for the front rails. So I should have at least.... 10 anchor points, 6 of which are adjustable!

Thanks so much for your input!

I too scrap in a tacoma at times. I've had a 98 that rusted out and caught fire when i was cutting it up and a 2017. both 4x4 with 6' beds and 2.7L engines. the new trucks are heavier and more beastly when it comes to hauling but the old one was killer in the snow. not so much in the new one. As far as the tacoma goes, don't over tighten or put too much pressure on those adjustable anchor points you mentioned. I use the D rings whenever i can. headache racks or back racks or what have you need to be specifically made to fit the newer tacoma bed. when ever they made the second gen truck they have been using that composite bed which is way different mounting wise for add on's like that. but you can just google headache rack 2014 tacoma and turn up results. and if your looking for more tips you got alot but I'll tell you what i do. go to the home depot and get a husky splitting maul to tear apart washers and dryers and stoves and what not. that way they can be smashed up and stacked better and all motors removed. you can take the legs off tables and other things real quick with the maul vs. fiddling with screw drivers and what not. but since the maul can't do everything take patriots advice. get you a battery powered impact driver to take srcews out quick. and toss em in an old water jug or something. when the jug gets full toss it as deep into the light iron as you can. I like to stuff all my non ferrous into a corner of the truck and try to keep it all in that corner as much as i can to speed up unloading at the yard. I don't hoarde anything. if its on the truck when i roll in it comes off and i get paid for what i got when i get it. also tacoma specific if your hauling alot, the two little storage things in the bed get blocked off real quick. so i stopped putting anything in them after the first week. I also like to pre hook straps on the front d-rings when i anticipate using them before they get buried on my runs. then just throw ratchets on them and hook em up in an x configuration when needed. occasionally i'll have to use the adjustable runners but i try to avoid them. and another thing I like to have but isn't needed is a trailer made from the back half of a S-10. That almost triples my hauling capacity. I also like to paint or add lettering on the tailgate that says metal recycling or something of that nature. I get some hits off that every now and then. The Tacoma is also one of the most profitable urban area scrap trucks i've had. the f250's are good for out in rural areas and once you start getting massive volumes of stuff but the little trucks were turning profits for me where i was at.

And disclaimer: Don't do this if you don't feel safe doing so! but My trucks GVWR is 5700lbs on the new Tacoma. I've already weighed in with out the trailer at 6500 lbs. it was actually pretty common to see 59-6100 on the scale. The truck doesn't seem to mind it. but i also take roads no one else does and drive like 25mph or less when hauling that heavy. again i'm not condoning that or telling anyone that its ok to haul overweight, just trying to let you know the truck can handle it no problem. no need to stress out about blowing shackles at 5701lbs. the truck don't care.

Originally Posted by matador

I know I'm a little late to the thread, but I can talk about those Tacomas first hand:

The neighbor's farm runs Toyotas whenever they can get one (Workers get "Whatever was cheap at the auto auction, but they prefer to buy Toyotas"). The owners run 2012? Tacomas. I've helped them when they've been short handed, and Lord, the things I've seen those trucks do, and some of the things I've done to them....

Even with the little 4 cylinder and a manual transmission, those things take a LOT of punishment. Both had under 100k miles last I saw them, but those were miles carrying way too much in the bed, through mud, over ruts, and in places that a pickup has no business going. Those trucks hold up extremely well- you're going to love yours. I'm honestly thinking of trying to find a Tacoma or Tundra for my next truck in my E-Waste business. The only complaint I have is the price on them out here (People pay a large premium for them out here). But, mechanically- I can't think of any faults. If the neighbors can't kill a truck, you surely won't

That is wonderful to hear! The one I got was 100% a work truck before I got it, so even though it has low miles, Im sure some of them were some hard miles. Fortunately I got it CPO and still have a good bit of warranty left if I ever need it. I feel like I got a good deal, but they do sure command a steep price. Mine is the 2.7L 4cyl, 2wd.... I am always pretty rough on my vehicles, and knowing toyotas reputation to take a beating is one of the main reasons I got this truck. Hearing you confirm this, is reassuring too! Thanks!

Originally Posted by msmoorad

expecting a part of the payout is fair if u contributed a fair amount of time, effort etc towards helping you get paid.

other than that, if u have ppl working with you, its wiser to clearly decide in advance, how much/what percentage they are entitled to etc.

though the best is to work alone as far as possible and take along an assistant only when absolutely necessary...and that too, try not to let them know too much about how much u earned.

when i use an assistant, i make sure he doesnt see my receipt and does not know what i got paid.
i just slip him what hes entitled to and thats as far as it goes with him and my money.
i prefer not to have an assistant thats TOO sharp, if u catch my drift- they just need to be intelligent/competent enough to complete the tasks i give them.

I am a one man operation and scrapping isnt my day job, just something I enjoy doing that makes me a few bucks.... I probably wont hire anyone to help, and anyone coming to help would be a friend or someone I wouldnt mind paying fairly if they wanted. It isnt really about the money to me (although maximizing profit is part of the fun for sure)

Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries

And disclaimer: Don't do this if you don't feel safe doing so! but My trucks GVWR is 5700lbs on the new Tacoma. I've already weighed in with out the trailer at 6500 lbs. it was actually pretty common to see 59-6100 on the scale. The truck doesn't seem to mind it. but i also take roads no one else does and drive like 25mph or less when hauling that heavy. again i'm not condoning that or telling anyone that its ok to haul overweight, just trying to let you know the truck can handle it no problem. no need to stress out about blowing shackles at 5701lbs. the truck don't care.

What were you carrying to put you 800lbs over?

Originally Posted by EDC76

What were you carrying to put you 800lbs over?

on that one a bunch of old cast iron radiators. and some cast poop pipes and about 2/3 of an oil tank and what ever else i could cram into the oil tank. I've also hauled about 1300lbs of sealed units in it. that put me about 500lbs over roughly. nothing compared to the dakota i bought from the yard. the first load i ran with it was 2,500lbs. but the shackles exploded and ripped the muffler off when it tagged the ground. I didn't realize that them old gravely tractors were as heavy as they were otherwise i never woulda done quite that much. but it only cost me 30 minutes and 50 cents or so in scrap metal and welding wire to fix that one.

and to the op i see your struggles having to wait till Saturday to go to the yard. thats how it was when i was in ft. hood. luckily i had two full size trucks and a full size truck bed trailer at the time so i would load up all week accumulate things and take everything in one shot on the weekends. it was just a hobby then though. the toyota is way more profitable for what i was doing curb shopping and picking up when people call. the only other advice i can think of that i left out about the truck is to maybe spray diesel or like that fluid film on your frame at least once a year to keep it from rotting out. my 98 rotted pretty bad because of the salt. and thats literally the only reason i had to get rid of it. the body was good. the engine was still amazing. just the frame rotted. there were holes i was gonna try and fish plate over but decided to just cut it up. as i was cutting it up i noticed the whole rail sections were like paper thin and delaminating. so now i keep my frames oiled. sounds funny but thats how they ship new metal. and some steel sales places down in texas keep it outside and theres no rust at all when you buy most of it.

Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries

on that one a bunch of old cast iron radiators. and some cast poop pipes and about 2/3 of an oil tank and what ever else i could cram into the oil tank. I've also hauled about 1300lbs of sealed units in it. that put me about 500lbs over roughly. nothing compared to the dakota i bought from the yard. the first load i ran with it was 2,500lbs. but the shackles exploded and ripped the muffler off when it tagged the ground. I didn't realize that them old gravely tractors were as heavy as they were otherwise i never woulda done quite that much. but it only cost me 30 minutes and 50 cents or so in scrap metal and welding wire to fix that one.

and to the op i see your struggles having to wait till Saturday to go to the yard. thats how it was when i was in ft. hood. luckily i had two full size trucks and a full size truck bed trailer at the time so i would load up all week accumulate things and take everything in one shot on the weekends. it was just a hobby then though. the toyota is way more profitable for what i was doing curb shopping and picking up when people call. the only other advice i can think of that i left out about the truck is to maybe spray diesel or like that fluid film on your frame at least once a year to keep it from rotting out. my 98 rotted pretty bad because of the salt. and thats literally the only reason i had to get rid of it. the body was good. the engine was still amazing. just the frame rotted. there were holes i was gonna try and fish plate over but decided to just cut it up. as i was cutting it up i noticed the whole rail sections were like paper thin and delaminating. so now i keep my frames oiled. sounds funny but thats how they ship new metal. and some steel sales places down in texas keep it outside and theres no rust at all when you buy most of it.

Yea this a hobby for me still. My day job pays way too well for me to try and do scrapping as anything but a hobby, and because I enjoy it. I was looking at getting wd40 "anti-corrosion" spray and hitting the frame, its less than $10/can. The truck frame already has a tiny bit of surface rust on some of the welds on the frame so def want to slow that down as much as possible. I do keep it garaged, but with North east snow and road salting, rust is a real concern. Keeping it washed in the winter is another thing Ill do to keep the rust at bay hopefully.

You can undercoat a vehicle at home on the cheap.

Back in Northwestern PA, we used an air compressor, siphon gun, and used motor oil. Put one end of a hose on the siphon and drop the other end in a jug of used oil and spray the underside.
We did this every fall.

https://www.amazon.com/WYNNsky-Sipho...d-tools&sr=1-2