my grandpa was best friends with the mill owners father that we use..they broke into the scrap business about the same time..my gpa couldnt get along with the customers and he couldnt use a torch lol..but i do agree most mills are scandelous and will get ya anyway they can lol..and i still get close to 8000 tons a month..but im the only true scrap yard in the area besides that beast alters about 90 miles from me lol..but i have been feeling a pinch on number 2 steel...its hard to compete with a shredder lol...they pay 10 less a ton for shred then i do number 2 steel so i cant compete with that noone can cut steel for 10 a ton lol..