Experienced Scrapper
Question about motor winding and transformer copper
A while ago, I took in some copper windings to the local scrap yard and they paid me for red brass. Does that sound correct? I thought motor windings (transformers) were copper not brass, did I get screwed?:confused: Today I took apart two small motors windings and one small transformer. Some of the of the metal looks red and some looks copper color. What do you guys think?
Buckatabon
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That is varnish over the windings, the yard guy should be smarter than that. Or maybe you need to be smarter than that guy,,,lol
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I'm guessing that you didn't remove all of the brass electrical connectors.
That'd be classed as 'Red brass'
Experienced Scrapper
Mechanic688 thanks for the quick reply. I agree I should have done some research before taking the metal in. I was Naïve at the time and should have questioned the metal type after being handed the paper slip. That brings up a new question. The guys that work in that area where you drop off your metal are Hispanic and I don’t speak Spanish. These guys are very hard to understand with the language barrier. Do you guys run into this same problem? What have you done to correct that issue without having to go hunt down someone that speaks English and Spanish every time you make a drop off.
Buckatabon
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I really don't have that problem as there is no Mexicans working any of the yards around here.Originally Posted by buckatabon
Even the yard signs are in English. No offense intended.
Experienced Scrapper
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I found a new yard that employs americans, and helpful ones at that.also i recommend that everyone else i know use that yard.
LowLife
Learn some simple spanish..like hola, como estas??..hi, how are you..im not fluent by any means but it isn't that hard to catch onto everyday words..thankfully I don't have to deal with that at the 2 yards I go to..but if I did id just say te gustas cervezas..me gusta mucho...lightens em up...lol...gl man
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i know lots of spanish, taco, burrito, mañana, Sayonara, el splito
do yall break down smaller transformers, or just leave them together ?
Last edited by Bear; 04-04-2012 at 12:30 AM.
LowLife
Taco...lol that's a good 1..if u are talking about the one's out of crts I leave mine alone 25 cents a lb at my yard... anything over 20 lbs I tear down..did a 120 pounder the other day out of a rectifier..nice score of #1...que es el spliti???
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
Its a common thing here too. The only ones that speak English are in the office. It doesn't help that I've got dark skin and can't speak Spanish. I've used the same yard for over 15 years. The most of the guys there know me and and very trysting when I take stuff in. The other day I took in about 500 pounds of #1 copper and about 50 of #2. The Guy just combined them and called it all #1. I usually go in 2 times a week with mainly computer cases. At least once a month in the summer I take the guys in the yard a case of water and in the winter I take coffee. Its a hard boundary to break but if you do research on your metals and get to know the guys you will find that most of them speak a lot more English then they show and they hopefully will help you out. If not there is always this forum. Good luck.
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Or don't learn any spanish at all an d go to a different yard. Your the customer and they should provide an english speaking service.....in America......, you shouldn't have to go out of YOUR way to do business with THEM. Thats as backwards as it gets. Tell everyone else to use a different yard also..... and tell the manager that you won't be using that yard until the language barrier issue is met. Companies will do this b/c they can rip you off and get away with it b/c you can't argue your prices b/c you can't speak spanish...... screw that.....
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They know enough English to punch in the classification...Approve each classification as you go through the stack and put it back in the truck if you don't agree.
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Also the phrase "tu es loco en la cabasa" (you are crazy in the head). The grammer may not be great but they will get the inference. You are not going to take being screwed with.
Also I have found a little spanish lingo goes a long way in getting those guys to be helpful. In the flea market busines the wife and I dealt with a lot of them. We found most to be very nice and very interesting to talk with. Mike.
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Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked
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I break mine down if I can. I'm probably one of the few who do.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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Same here, billygoat. I want the higer price.
All my small ones go into a barrell for now, someday if it ever slows down I might try breaking them down.
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What's the best way to break them down? I've got a metal blade for my miter saw, was thinking about just cutting them in half someway, to separate it
A cold chisel on the weld line works really well Bear.
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Couldn't agree more! Exactly what Hypoman said. ^^^^
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