Came across this video of a machine to recycle phones, thought it may interest the e-waste recyclers.
Came across this video of a machine to recycle phones, thought it may interest the e-waste recyclers.
scares the hell out of me, I don't ever want the ability for companies to use machines to process their own ewaste emg we all would be out of a job. apple not a problem but if waste management deployed these to pick though all their trash ok I am going to stop there its to scary for me to continue lol
The question would be cost efficiency. I mean we all know how expensive a simple copper granulating system can be. I think that for a company to take this leap would be very costly and they would need to justify that with huge volume. And that is where we come in. A company like WM will not have the volume of phones to justify an operation like this one.
The robotics for demanufacturing are prohibitively expensive and shredding is not a viable process. I have seen office phones run through rollers to pretty much leave the board for easy pickings but that's as far as e waste has come to proper demanufacturing. Not only that but the robot used in the commercial costs more than a million dollars, it IS designed to move so fast the human eye cannot track it...but how many i phones of that particular vintage does it take to recover the cost? each platform (phone type) requires a jig and programming, in addition it may even require optical sensors to have "targets" which isn't possible on a laptop or desktop manufactured by hand. (dell does use robotics now...) It would not account for corrosion, or dirt, or any number of factors.
Robotics would be more suited to initial sorting... waste management would be able to use a robot to optically identify electronics and pull them from the conveyor at the facility to be stacked and sold to someone (like those of us on the forum) who then buy it for tailored demanufacturing.
How do you beat the robot? Be more efficient, personable and convenient. At least...for now lol.
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I saw that this "commercial" was made by apple. Perhaps they already have robotics assembling their phones, and the same technology made this. I can see this beneficial to manufacturers dealing with their own products. This would be not worthwhile to disassemble all phones from all manufacturers in a 3rd party recycling setting.
Using a $1.2 million machine to recover $12 in scrap metal from a specific model iPhone ...
I bet people had the same response the first time they tried to use a machine to build a car, but look how many jobs were lost to the machines.
My reactions to that video in order:
1) well that's not fair.
2) that's really cool
3) can't be cost effective
4) that's really cool
5) this has to be a one-off demo just for publicity
6) that's really cool
7) SKYNET !!!
8) still really cool
have to add a 9) I do not believe it. Everything was too clean and photogenic. Even the phone was pristine. If they can make a an animal talk and get up and dance and still look realistic it can be done for a machine too. By actual count i have bought and sold over 35,000 cell phones and very few looked that good. most were shattered glass and full of crud and many were bent. (the nicer phones get sold on ebay)
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Google is testing self driving cars out here today and this article says Freightliner is predicting self driving rigs in 5-10 years.
The rise of the machines isn’t science fiction. It’s a reality that could have profound implications for millions of jobs in the near future.
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