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    Angry CRT Dumping Is Becoming More Common

    The EPA is cracking down hard on CRT disposal.
    The results are more illegal dumping sites are being created due to the sky-high cost of "properly disposing" of the glass.
    (skip to 5:20 & 11:16 & 15:16 in the video)


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    That is insane! I hope the EPA goes after the leaseholder of that property.

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    Number one, I can't believe they left all the cords!!
    Number two, that place would be so nice to film some Walking Dead episodes!!
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    I doubt the leaseholder even knows that is there. But I'd bet you a month's pay there's a company within 50 miles of this place who dumped all that there and from the video...based on the refuse and wetness of carboard and the forklift tracks...it's a still active dump site for sure.
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    I bet there's an interesting story there. Judging by the sheetrock in the receptionist area of the building there was an attempt made at a business startup of some kind. Looks like they ran out of money because the new sheetrock didn't make it to the point where it got painted.

    All the CRT's out back in the warehouse could have been related to that somehow.

    It would be pretty hard to handle that many CRT's & TVs without leaving any fingerprints. That might be a starting point.

    Maybe set up a couple of game cameras and check on them every so often to see if they turn up anything ?

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    It's not getting worse, it's just people are talking about it now.

    Nothing irks me like seeing a tube left on the curb, or where ever an it's all smashed up.

    Illegal dumping will see us eventually regulated an needing permits to do anything, all cause some jerkwad is to lazy to dispose of things properly.

    Maybe there is a story behind it...till then I'll stick with the facts known. Someone left behind a bunch of tubes, an till more info comes out, I reserve the right to assume they were just to lazy to put up the sheetrock, an they were illegally dumping tubes there or doing it under the radar. Legit companies tend to organize things better. It also looks like they trashed the place, an didn't care about the building at all. Shots in the video that show a unsafe work environment. An if it was a failed business I still have no sympathy judging by the way they kept things. Not a big surprise they failed if that's how they organize things.

    Chaos may work in a home shop or one man shop, but general fails when it comes to a big building/warehouse.

    My thoughts, keep'm or get a refund for the 2 pennies.

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    I'm with Scrappah, this has all the sign's of a failed business attempt, at some type of CRT recycling and obviously going about it all wrong! Those forklift tracks do appear to be "fresh", hard to say as this property has years of neglect and not from just the most recent tenants. I do commercial property management, managing shopping centers, warehouses, light industrial and business parks. A property that is well managed, is not "normally" allowed to fall into this kind accumulated neglect. There's a saying in real estate, "Location, location, location." this property, more than likely has run it's course and is in a location that is no longer a thriving vibrant community. Originally this was probably a "Spec" built building for a particular successfully ran company, that for many a reasons, no longer occupies this space. Then property owners begin the process of leasing to other suitable alternative "lease holders" to occupy a building that may or may not work out. A lot of times a building like this one, fairly large and with a layout that just does not work for anyone else, simply because it was built for one need only. I would guess there has been several "lease holders" since the original business occupied this building. More than one person knows those responsible for this property damage, caused by a large amount of discarded environmental waste (CRT's). A commercial property is leased, almost always with a large security deposit that helps to cover these problems that are certain to occur. There will also be a commercial insurance policy that will cover some of these damages if property owners are still solvent. A worse case scenario, may have occurred with this property, in that property owners are no longer financially able to posses the property. In that case, the local governments (city, county and state) will need to take over as the "responsible party", with seizure and sale of property hopefully covering most of cleanup cost.

    The market for CRT recycling has become very limited with less responsible recycling companies interested in properly handling CRT's. There is going to be more problems than solutions before the "tube" fades away into just a "memory". There is no "one right solution" and everyone is going to be challenged to do the "right thing"! I have had to deal with dumped TV's and monitors, these were all illegally dumped on a commercial property, mostly in or nears a trash dumpster. We process them by opening the case, retaining the screws, removing all wire, copper and PCB.s. We then put the case back together with the screws, so as to "properly protect" the CRT as it is transported to a state certified approved recycler. The cost of properly recycling is not covered by money received, by our efforts, but it does help "offset" our cost to be responsible property managers. I wish illegal dumping did not happen, but it does and CRT's are not the only problem or greatest problem. The good news is we see less and less CRT's now then we did five years ago. Now the bad news, we are seeing more flat screen displays, good thing they weigh less!

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    CRT Dumping Is Becoming More Common

    watch the video again guys. early on he shows the accumulation of dust and debris on the plastic...and you can see it on some of the crts as well. but then you see forklift tracks that go right through a few muddy puddles and there is a few pallets and boxes under an open part of the roof that are dry as a bone themselves. someone dumped at that sight between that video and the last rain fall. and their a recycler too....which is horribly shameful.

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    CRT Dumping Is Becoming More Common

    I do agree game cameras could answer all kinds of questions...but point them at the entrances...not the building.

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    Claims to be in Tennessee..........If nearby I can take a look

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    So do you think people are paying to put these here? Or it is just a dumping ground for free? I feel its a pay to dump and if so people will be caught if there is any paper trail at all. When and if the government collects CRT's the warehouse will be bigger, or they will store underground in Nevada but they will do nothing to get rid of them. Could drop them on ISIS I guess...

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    look at 4:18 on the video it says TENCON Dept 101 on the wall

    also saw dura oil on red things 10:50 could this be the place...

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/34...667a3a10?hl=en
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    look at 4:18 on the video it says TENCON Dept 101 on the wall

    also saw dura oil on red things 10:50 could this be the place...

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/34...667a3a10?hl=en
    It could be, but it doesn't seem to match with the exterior shots taken in the video.

    I found a reference to TENCON in the court records.

    PLASTI-LINE MFG. v. Combined Communications Corp., 741 F. Supp. 141 (E.D. Tenn. 1989) :: Justia

    Looks like Tencon manufactured plastic outdoor signs and were bought out by one of their main competitors back in the 80's.

    If you look at the video : There's another abandoned building right nearby with an old delivery truck parked next to it 20:03. The best exterior shots were taken from inside the administrative section 9:16, inside the reception area looking out 14:00, and the final drive around at the end of the video.

    Went to youtube and located the video. Next i looked through all of the comments underneath. They seem to be saying that it's located in Centerville TN ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    So do you think people are paying to put these here? Or it is just a dumping ground for free? I feel its a pay to dump and if so people will be caught if there is any paper trail at all. When and if the government collects CRT's the warehouse will be bigger, or they will store underground in Nevada but they will do nothing to get rid of them. Could drop them on ISIS I guess...
    Ummmm ..... find out who owns the building. (That's all i'm gonna say at this point.)

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    Nearly 4 hours to Centerville from here

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    I drove past Centerville twice last week on my way to Waverly and Only Tennessee to work some service tickets.

    I'm sure I'll be going back in that direction in the next few weeks.

    Not sure how I would go about finding the building and what I would do if I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimicrk View Post
    I drove past Centerville twice last week on my way to Waverly and Only Tennessee to work some service tickets.

    I'm sure I'll be going back in that direction in the next few weeks.

    Not sure how I would go about finding the building and what I would do if I did.
    wire cutters and a large tote??

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    It's not much to go on but i chased the corporate ownership of Tencon through to the ImagePoint corporation. This gives a rundown on the company history.

    ImagePoint - Signs-Facility Branding - Our History

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    Plasti-Line purchased Tencon in Centerville, TN. This added the McDonald's program, which is still one of our largest accounts today. While Tencon was consolidated in Knoxville in 1988, many of the Tencon employees still work for Plasti-Line today.

    If you stopped in at the town grocery store and asked one of the old timers where the Tencon plant used to be they might be able to point you in the right direction.

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    It gets even better !

    Quote:

    I know this building it was first a plastic sign manufacturer, , mobile home mfg, recycle company, mighty equipment, then a recycle co. On and on...supposedly Perry march was the legal rep for mighty equipment and some thought he buried his wife in a barrel behind the place...funny the things you hear i in a small town.


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