Importing spent shotgun shells from Canada into USA

So a huge question I am not having much luck with is this: I seeking information on whether spent shotgun shells would fall into the category of scrap metal or scrap plastic or some other kind of mixed scrap category for importing into the USA from Canada. naturally the shells are more hdpe plastic than the brass or steel casings... but how would the usa border control tag them? also would this material fall under the NAFTA compact and be consider duty free? hopefully i dont run into any hazard issues considering they are spent "used" and nothing is live including primers. the shells themselves were mostly imported from us ammunition makers, spent and now i wish to bring them for recycling of there hdpe content and of course the small amount of brass or steel. the loads would one per month consisting of 40,000 lbs packed into gaylord boxes. do i need to be certified to import this kind of material? bonded or offer sureties? how long would these loads be held at customs? any carrier suggestions who have experience importing scrap material into the USA from Canada?

Any helpful information would be greatly appreciated

Presumably you are talking a truckload, in other words many gaylords full....?

Your best bet is to check with a firm that does commercial border brokerage. You will get the best answers and you will need the paperwork anyway to cross. And if the outfit you choose doesn't specialize in that kind of commodity, they should at least direct you to another firm who does specialize in what you are looking at.

Even if you are just talking a pickup load, a border broker can be your best friend. It doesn't cost a lot and sure greases the skids when you cross the line.

They will also be familiar with the ins and outs of NAFTA regulations.

Jon.

Are you going to re-load these empty casings or have another use besides scrap? I think most shotgun "brass" nowadays is steel. Maybe I'm missing the value but 20 tons of these as scrap at say $40 a ton (I'm just guessing 2 cents a pound as light steel or as plastic) seems like a lot of effort to gross $800 (???)

you need to read up on import/export regulations and tariff shifts...there is a huge thick book of all the classifications. people make a good living just consulting on this very topic, so it's not the easiest to answer...

link to Harmonized Tariff Schedule Harmonized Tariff Schedule Search

9306.30.41 Cartridges and empty cartridge shells , scroll down for empty, other.

Any update on this plan??

I'm a newb but where is computer scrap on this?

Originally Posted by CapitalRecovery

I'm a newb but where is computer scrap on this?

In the shell casing between the primer and the powder. There is a small chip that tells the powder to go boom.

Go back and read the first post again but slower this time.

I meant on Harmonized Tariff Schedule Search

I went to the site and typed in goats and found this info...

https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=goats

Originally Posted by capitalrecovery

i'm a newb but where is computer scrap on this?

wtf??

So sheep are free but goats cost if they have heads???

Originally Posted by CapitalRecovery

So sheep are free but goats cost if they have heads???

Yes! Welcome!

Where in Canada do we generate 40,000 pounds of spent shot gun shells every month

Police services would generate some, but certainly not 40,000 lbs per month. They would need to dispose of a fair amount of brass though, I assume by a similar process to the above Crown Assets Disposal.

Originally Posted by Otto

Police services would generate some, but certainly not 40,000 lbs per month. They would need to dispose of a fair amount of brass though, I assume by a similar process to the above Crown Assets Disposal.

With only 33 million people in Canada that would be enough empty casings to give each person 20 shells.

2016 census 44,476,688 Canada versus 318.86 fot the USA not counting illeagles.

Our military and police forces do not favour shot guns,

Originally Posted by alloy2

With only 33 million people in Canada that would be enough empty casings to give each person 20 shells.

2016 census 44,476,688 Canada versus 318.86 fot the USA not counting illeagles.

Our military and police forces do not favour shot guns,

I agree the amount of spent casings being talked about doesn't make sense. The use of shotguns for police and the military would be primarily for delivering "non-lethal" projectiles (such as in riot control).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet

If you've got the weapons, you need to train with them which would result in spent casings. As a former Base Defence Force platoon commander, I recall this being covered in "Aid to the civil power" training.

Originally Posted by Otto

I agree the amount of spent casings being talked about doesn't make sense. The use of shotguns for police and the military would be primarily for delivering "non-lethal" projectiles (such as in riot control).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet

If you've got the weapons, you need to train with them which would result in spent casings. As a former Base Defence Force platoon commander, I recall this being covered in "Aid to the civil power" training.

I'm 67 years old and had to rely on Wikipedia to find out when we Canadian's acatually had a riot there have been a total of 31 riots in Canada

• 1849 – Stony Monday Riot (Bytown, Ontario, Canada
• 1849 – Montreal Riots (Montreal, Canada
• 1917 – Quebec Easter riots, (Quebec, Canada
• 1918 – Anti-Greek riots, Toronto, Canada, involved 5,000 veterans destroying and looting over 20 Greek businesses causing $100,000 damage, 16 police and 150 rioting veterans and civilians were hurt
• 1919 – Bloody Saturday, Winnipeg, Canada
• 1933 – Christie Pits Race Riots Toronto, Canada
• 1935 – Regina Riot Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
• 1935 – Battle of Ballantyne Pier Vancouver, Canada
• 1938 – Bloody Sunday Vancouver, Canada
• 1944 – The Montreal and Verdun Zoot-Suit disturbances of June 1944, Montreal, Canada
• 1945 – Halifax Riot, (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
• 1955 – The Richard Riot March 17, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
• 1968 – Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day riot, Montreal, Canada
• 1969 – Sir George Williams Computer Riot, Montreal, Canada
• 1969 – Murray-Hill riot, Montreal, Québec, Canada
• 1971 – Gastown Riots, August 1971, Vancouver, Canada
• 1981 – 1981 Toronto bathhouse riots, February 1981, Toronto, Canada
• 1992 – Montreal, Quebec, Canada – Riot after Guns N' Roses show during the Guns N' Roses/Metallica Stadium Tour.
• 1993 – Stanley Cup Riot, Montreal, Canada, June 9, 1993.
• 1994 – Stanley Cup Riot, Vancouver, Canada, June 14, 1994
• 2001 – Quebec City Summit of the Americas, April 2001 Quebec, Canada
• 2001 – Canada Day Riot, July 2001, Edmonton, Canada
• 2003 – The Exploited Montreal riot, Montreal, Canada
• 2006 – Stanley Cup Western Conference Finals (Edmonton Oilers victory), May 2006, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
• 2008 – August 2008 Montreal North Riot Montreal, Canada
• 2010 – Riots in Vancouver, Canada during the 2010 Winter Olympics
• 2010 – Riots in Toronto, Canada during the 2010 G-20 Toronto summit, 1105 arrests
• 2010 – Prison riot in Quebec, Canada, 2 killed
• 2011 – Riots in Vancouver, Canada after the Vancouver Canucks lost to the Boston Bruins in the Stanley Cup