“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

“Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success have no meaning.”

both are franklin quotes. one is about personal liberties. the other is about the betterment of society.

society as a whole has benefited from many of the current regulations. the benefits of clean water or building codes have infringed on your personal liberties. they have kept your liberties from being infringed upon.

your complaints about over regulation and the corruption of our politicians are valid and correct. i have never met a politician who was not corrupt in my life time. seems to be the nature of politics. i once suggested hanging all politicians and starting over. a lot of folks got upset over that remark. i still think it is a good idea. but that is just my opinion.

we do not have the right to poison the environment simply because of a refusal to handle the toxic wastes and by products of our business' or personal use correctly.

it only takes a few to screw this up for the rest of us. since i have joined this forum, i have read several threads regarding the venting of freon, dumping various oils and incorrect handling & disposal of crt glass. and there are numerous federal and state regulations addressing that.

that just opens the door for the politicians to go crazy with regulations.

if you have a viable plan that will work you should present it to your legislators.



you know they will do this regardless of what any of us think.