Anyone have the access to the full story on this site.
Owners of Idaho scrapyard jailed | AMM | 9/17/2012
Anyone have the access to the full story on this site.
Owners of Idaho scrapyard jailed | AMM | 9/17/2012
no, but elsewhere:
Grant County authorities are asking for information on possible victims of an Idaho-based scrap-metal company whose owners were convicted last month of theft.
Anthony Montwheeler, 44, and his wife, Anita Harmon-Montwheeler, 36, owners of Weiser, Idaho-based Northwest Materials Management Services, were convicted of aggravated first-degree theft last month, according to authorities. They had agreed to remove equipment and metal from the property of an elderly couple, but paid them less than half the value of the 250 tons of metal, according to a press release from the Grant County District Attorney and sheriff's offices. Investigators estimate the couple underpaid the customers more than $10,000.
Anthony Montwheeler was sentenced to two years in prison while his wife was sentenced to 16 months in prison.
The case has generated reports of other customers who said they were also victims. Police ask that anyone with information of other possible criminal cases involving the couple or their business to call Grant County Sheriff's Deputy James Burgett at (541) 575-1131 or the Grant County District Attorney's Office at (541) 575-0146.
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photo of the Montwheelers
hmmm got to be more to this story. how about that scam cash for gold co. why arn't they in jail.
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This happened not too far from me. I am still trying to find out the details. I will post what I find out. There has to be more to the story.
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did they agree to a price before they removed the scrap ? I am not standing up for them, just for peoples right to be stupid ant their right to pay for it in either case buyer or seller. it is moraly wrong and any one who knows me knows where I stand on that. but is it legally wrong, if you are not worth Billions that
cant elaborate but we are in a simular situation against a multi billion dollar competitor.
so its a crime to underpay? wth bs is that? the old couple probably got greedy after accepting whatever they accepted to begin with.
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250 tons of metal? thats a lot .ok i understand the people feel they were wronged but i bet it takes close to 10 g to process that metal .ie, pick up move , separate,cut...i bet was there son oh metal 2.85 lb today they under paid you ...that my thought ,me why i make contract for anything that is a quantity...
There has to be more to the story. If I have a house and I agree to sell it to you for a dollar, that is a contract between two individuals. The law doesn't get to step in later and say you haven't paid me what it is worth. Also as previously mentioned, nothing seems to be taken into account for the costs of transport or processing. Sure would like to know all the details.
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I'm wondering if they agreed to remove all the scrap for a per pound amount and instead lied about the amount of steel they removed. This would lead to something along the lines of what they are being charged for. Sure these people don't sound like a real trustworthy business but it doesn't sound illegal.
I would probably press charge is they said they would remove all the steel for .10/lb and they come back with we removed 100 tons and I knew there was more than that there. That is actually theft saying you would pay for something and then not paying for it. Undercharging isn't.
Sometimes the scales of justice is more than just a metaphor.
Sounds like he needs money to pay his fees/fines from an earlier grand theft charge.
State of Idaho vs. Anthony Wayne Montwheeler
Next hearing scheduled: 11/23/2012 2:30 PM
Case: CR-2004-0000344 District Judge: Susan E Wiebe Amount due: $14,573.28 Closed pending clerk action
Charges: Violation Date Charge Citation Degree Disposition
07/20/2004 I18-2407(1) Theft-grand
Officer: Clark, Mark (PPD), 1000 Felony Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/02/2005
Fines/fees: $526.50
Jail: 360 days
Suspended Jail: 270 days
Det Penitentiary: 6 months, 1 year
Indet Penitentiary: 6 months, 2 years
Pending hearings: Date/Time Judge Hearing Type
11/23/2012 2:30 PM A Lynne Krogh Review of Fines
Register of actions: Date
07/20/2004 New Case Filed
07/20/2004 Affidavit Of Probable Cause
07/20/2004 Arraignment / First Appearance
07/20/2004 Constitutional Rights Warning
07/20/2004 Affidavit Of Indigence
07/20/2004 Order Appointing Public Defender
07/20/2004 Commitment - Held To Answer
07/20/2004 Hearing Scheduled - Prelim (08/02/2004) William B. Dillon Iii
07/21/2004 Request For Discovery
07/21/2004 Motion For Bond Reduction
07/26/2004 Subpoena Returned Roberta Chandler
07/27/2004 Notice Of Compliance
07/28/2004 Subpoena Returned Clark/vogt
07/28/2004 Bond Posted - Surety
07/28/2004 Order To Release
08/02/2004 Preliminary Hearing Held - Prelim
08/02/2004 Bound Over (after Prelim)
08/02/2004 Order Binding To District Court
08/02/2004 Bound Over (after Prelim)
08/02/2004 Transfer In (from Idaho Court Or County)
08/02/2004 Hearing Scheduled - Grand Theft (08/06/2004) Stephen W. Drescher
08/02/2004 Notice Of Service
08/02/2004 Request For Discovery
08/02/2004 Criminal Information
08/06/2004 Arraignment / First Appearance - Grand Theft
08/06/2004 Hearing Scheduled - Grand Theft (10/22/2004) Stephen W. Drescher
08/06/2004 Jury Trial Scheduled - Grand Theft (11/03/2004) Stephen W. Drescher
08/06/2004 Court Minutes
08/09/2004 Supplementary Notice Of Compliance
10/20/2004 Stipulation to Continue Pre-Trial & Jury Trial
10/22/2004 Hearing result for Pre-trial Conference held on 10/22/2004 09:00 AM: Hearing Held Grand Theft
10/22/2004 Hearing result for Jury Trial Scheduled held on 11/03/2004 09:00 AM: Continued Grand Theft
10/22/2004 Hearing Scheduled (Pretrial Conference 12/16/2004 10:30 AM) GRAND THEFT
10/22/2004 Hearing Scheduled (Jury Trial 12/28/2004 09:00 AM) GRAND THEFT
10/22/2004 Order to continue pre trial and jury trial
10/22/2004 Court Minutes
10/26/2004 Request For Discovery
10/26/2004 Notice of Substitution of Counsel
10/26/2004 Defendant: Montwheeler, Anthony Wayne Appearance Matthew Roker
12/08/2004 response to discovery request
12/08/2004 supplemental response to request for discovery
12/15/2004 Continued (Pretrial Conference 12/16/2004 10:29 AM) GRAND THEFT
12/15/2004 Estimated Cost of Preliminary Hearing Transcript
12/16/2004 Stipulation to continue
12/16/2004 Hearing result for Pretrial Conference held on 12/16/2004 10:29 AM: Hearing Held GRAND THEFT
12/16/2004 Court Minutes/pre trial
12/17/2004 Hearing result for Jury Trial held on 12/28/2004 09:00 AM: Continued GRAND THEFT
12/17/2004 Hearing Scheduled (Jury Trial 02/15/2005 09:00 AM) GRAND THEFT
12/17/2004 OrderTO CONTINUE
01/03/2005 Subpoena Returned s goff
01/03/2005 Subpoena Returned m clark
01/05/2005 Subpoena Returned r chandler
01/05/2005 Subpoena Returned j lammers
01/06/2005 sheriff's no found service
01/06/2005 Subpoena Returned e. john
01/10/2005 Motion To Continue
01/12/2005 Notice of Hearing for Motion to Continue
01/12/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Motion 01/21/2005 09:00 AM) Motion to Continue
01/13/2005 Subpoena Returned c vogt
01/18/2005 Motion to Withdraw and Mtn to Shorten Time and Ntc of Hearing
01/18/2005 Affidavit in Support of Mtn to Withdraw
01/18/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Motion to Withdraw 01/21/2005 09:02 AM) Mtn to Withdraw by Matt Roker
01/21/2005 Hearing result for Motion to Withdraw held on 01/21/2005 09:02 AM: Hearing Held Mtn to Withdraw by Matt Roker
01/21/2005 Hearing result for Motion held on 01/21/2005 09:02 AM: Hearing Held MOTION TO CONTINUE
01/21/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Jury Trial 04/26/2005 09:00 AM) GRAND THEFT
01/21/2005 Order TO CONTINUE cc 2 pros & P Heersink
01/21/2005 Order for leave to withdraw as counsel ROKER withdrew HEERSINK will be PD
01/21/2005 Defendant: Montwheeler, Anthony Wayne Appearance Phillip B. Heersink
01/25/2005 Motion for Transcript of Preliminary Hearing
01/25/2005 Order for Transcript of Preliminary Hearing cc:PA,DA,Denece Graham
01/31/2005 Subpoena Returned (CLARK/VOGT)
01/31/2005 Subpoena Returned -Lammers/Chandler
02/10/2005 Transcript of Preliminary Hearing cc:PA,DA
02/24/2005 Subpoena Returned Ed John
04/08/2005 Subpoena Returned - Tavares - no found
04/13/2005 Subpoena Returned Smith
04/21/2005 Subpoena Returned (Platt,Cochran)
04/25/2005 Subpoena Returned NO FOUND ON DUSTIN HAINS
04/25/2005 Sheriff's Affd of Svc NO FOUND
04/27/2005 Affidavit of restitution
05/06/2005 Court Minutes
05/09/2005 Hearing result for Change of Plea held on 04/26/2005 09:00 AM: Court Accepts Guilty Plea
"The text that you have entered is too long (11396 characters). Please shorten it to 10000 characters long." lol. A first for me.
To be continued...
GRAND THEFT
05/09/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Sentencing 06/02/2005 01:30 PM)
05/09/2005 Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt (GT I18-2407(1) Theft-grand)
05/27/2005 PreSentence Report
06/02/2005 Hearing result for Sentencing held on 06/02/2005 01:31 PM: Disposition With Hearing
06/02/2005 Waiver of Extradition
06/02/2005 Notice to Defendant upon sentencing cc pros,counsel
06/02/2005 Probation Ordered (I18-2407(1) Theft-grand) Probation term: 3 years. (Supervised)
06/02/2005 Found Guilty After Trial (Guilty I18-2407(1) Theft-grand)
06/02/2005 Court Accepts Guilty Plea
06/02/2005 STATUS CHANGED: closed pending clerk action
06/02/2005 Sentenced To Incarceration (I18-2407(1) Theft-grand) Confinement terms: Jail: 360 days. Suspended Jail: 270 days. Penitentiary determinate: 1 year 6 months. Penitentiary indeterminate: 2 years 6 months.
06/02/2005 Sentenced To Pay Fine 88.50 charge: I18-2407(1) Theft-grand
06/02/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Hearing Scheduled 07/14/2005 01:30 PM) RESTITUTION HEARING
06/03/2005 Judgment & commitment and order of probation on suspended execution of judgment
06/06/2005 Surety Bond Exonerated (Amount 5,000.00)
06/20/2005 Subpoena Returned Cecil Vogt
07/11/2005 Stipulation to Continue
07/12/2005 Order to Continue cc:PA,DA
07/12/2005 Hearing result for Hearing Scheduled held on 07/14/2005 01:30 PM: Continued RESTITUTION HEARING
07/12/2005 Hearing Scheduled (Hearing Scheduled 09/01/2005 10:30 AM) Restitution Hearing
07/15/2005 Subpoena Returned CECIL VOGT
08/30/2005 Return of service
08/30/2005 Subpoena Returned David Deland
08/30/2005 Return of SErvice
08/30/2005 Subpoena Returned/Roberta Chandler
08/30/2005 REturn of SErvice Jerry Lamberts
08/30/2005 Subpoena Returned
09/01/2005 Hearing result for Hearing Scheduled held on 09/01/2005 10:30 AM: Hearing Held Restitution Hearing
09/01/2005 Amended Affidavit of Restitution
09/01/2005 Court Minutes
09/27/2005 Supplemental Judgment & Commitment & Order of Probation on Suspended Execution of Judgment cc:PA,DA
11/29/2005 Closing Argument
12/12/2005 Lodged Closing Argument Heersink
01/13/2006 Order on Restitution Hearing, cc P Heersink and B Lee
01/13/2006 Restitution Ordered 11500.00 victim # 1 BUT STATUTORY INTEREST IS TO BE CHARGED FROM DUE DATE OF June 28, 2004. THIS CONSTITUTES A CIVIL JUDGMENT Per Order 01-13-06
03/24/2006 Notice Of Withdrawal
12/22/2006 Hearing Scheduled (Review of Fines 02/23/2007 02:30 PM)
12/22/2006 Voided Receipt (Receipt# 10051 dated 12/22/2006)
02/21/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 04/27/2007 02:30 PM)
02/21/2007 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
04/19/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 08/24/2007 02:30 PM)
04/19/2007 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
08/15/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 09/28/2007 02:30 PM)
10/09/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 11/23/2007 02:30 PM)
10/09/2007 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
11/09/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 12/28/2007 02:30 PM)
11/09/2007 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
12/03/2007 Continued (Review of Fines 01/25/2008 02:30 PM)
12/03/2007 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
01/28/2008 Continued (Review of Fines 03/14/2008 02:30 PM)
01/28/2008 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
03/14/2008 Continued (Review of Fines 03/28/2008 02:30 PM)
03/24/2008 Continued (Review of Fines 04/25/2008 02:30 PM)
03/24/2008 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
05/09/2008 Order to Defer Payment Agreement
12/05/2008 Voided Receipt (Receipt# 11002 dated 12/5/2008)
09/30/2009 Change Assigned Judge (batch process)
02/01/2010 Miscellaneous Payment: For Making Copy Of Any File Or Record By The Clerk, Per Page Paid by: Larry Sullivan Receipt number: 0000970 Dated: 2/1/2010 Amount: $5.00 (Check)
06/03/2010 Hearing Scheduled (Review of Fines 06/25/2010 02:30 PM)
06/03/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 07/23/2010 02:30 PM)
06/03/2010 Order to Appear for Fines Review
07/26/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 08/27/2010 02:30 PM)
08/19/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 10/22/2010 02:30 PM)
08/19/2010 Order Deferring Payment
10/20/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 11/26/2010 02:30 PM)
11/12/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 01/28/2011 02:30 PM)
11/12/2010 Order Deferring Payment
12/16/2010 Continued (Review of Fines 02/25/2011 02:30 PM)
12/16/2010 Order Deferring Payment
01/26/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 01/28/2011 02:30 PM)
02/01/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 02/25/2011 02:30 PM)
02/16/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 03/25/2011 02:30 PM)
02/16/2011 Order Deferring Payment
03/14/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 04/22/2011 02:30 PM)
03/14/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 05/27/2011 02:30 PM)
03/14/2011 Order Deferring Payment
05/18/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 06/24/2011 02:30 PM)
05/18/2011 Order Deferring Payment
06/16/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 07/22/2011 02:30 PM)
06/16/2011 Order Deferring Payment
07/14/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 08/26/2011 02:30 PM)
07/14/2011 Order Deferring Payment
08/16/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 10/28/2011 02:30 PM)
08/16/2011 Order Deferring Payment
10/21/2011 Continued (Review of Fines 01/27/2012 02:30 PM)
10/21/2011 Order Deferring Payment
01/20/2012 Continued (Review of Fines 03/23/2012 02:30 PM)
03/16/2012 Continued (Review of Fines 06/22/2012 02:30 PM)
03/16/2012 Order Deferring Payment
06/18/2012 Continued (Review of Fines 09/28/2012 02:30 PM)
06/18/2012 Order Deferring Payment
08/20/2012 Continued (Review of Fines 11/23/2012 02:30 PM)
08/20/2012 Order Deferring Payment
Other victims have come forward.
Weiser scrap metal business owners convicted of theft | KTVB.COM Boise
I'm with craasher. The original information was confusing as far as the details. If the scrap man agreed to take the metal for $5 per hundred, then lied about how many pounds was hauled, then he is guilty of fraud. If he agreed to take it for $5 per hundred and the going rate is actually $6 per hundred, then he didnt commit a crime, he just got a good deal. Without reading all the court information, which one was he being charged with?
Since I have a subscription to AMM I can see the original story that was printed there. I don't want to copy the entire story and post it here because of copyrights. BUT here is part of the story as it was printed on AMM.
According to the story on AMM a price was agreed upon before the metal was to be removed and then the elderly couple was underpaid by more than half the original amount. The elderly couple was shortchanged by over $10,000.00, which means the original agreed upon price should have been over $20,000.
The couple, who owned Weiser, Idaho-based Northwest Materials Management Services, which also operated in eastern Oregon and western Washington, was convicted of aggravated theft for removing 250 tons of metal from an elderly couple’s property and allegedly paying them less than half of the agreed-upon amount.
The district attorney said that other parties have since come forward reporting similar experiences, and the Grant County Sheriff’s Office is investigating those complaints.
Ha! Some guy got crushed in a trap door while trying to drag metal out from under it(there was more to the story later, but that had yet to be disclosed) in an open alley, and my initial response was that he could have simply been gathering things he thought abandoned, but the majority of responses said "he deserved it, got just what he deserved! die!!" There was another one more recently which I can't recall the exact details to, but it played out on here much the same.
Now it's a DEALER, and you guys seem to be mostly excusing him unequivically?? I don't believe there's been any other business in my life that I have had to learn the hard way, time after time, that if you don't watch their every move you WILL get ripped!
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