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    CRT Monitors-Stay in or get out

    I have been scrapping for 5 months. I had a glass disposal source for crt tubes, but I was just told they couldn't take them from me anymore.



    Looking for a good disposal option for greater Cincinnati area.

    So far no luck and I have 100's of crt monitors.

    I have a great deal set up that keeps me flush with material, but the CRT's keep coming.

    Not sure what to do??

    thanks


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    Strip the insides put cover back on and take them to your local goodwill and call it a day about the only thing I can think of.

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    Goodwill is only good for 10 per day I believe. Better get going. Also do a search of which Goodwill stores take them. I have 4 nearby and only 1 of them takes them. Thank goodness for me it is the closer of the bunch. I had a link, but lost it.
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    And my Goodwill does not want them stripped where others take them empty so check with yours for sure. Also Staples or Best Buy. Here's one of the links with quite a bit of info. http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/showt...light=monitors
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    Find a friend who owns a business and ask them when the dumpster is emptied and if it's alright to fill it up the day before it gets emptied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapYaHerd View Post
    Find a friend who owns a business and ask them when the dumpster is emptied and if it's alright to fill it up the day before it gets emptied.
    That's really not a good answer because in our state, electronics are not supposed to go in the landfills. AND we don't condone illegal dumping here.

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    My answer is just as good or legitimate as any other. I'm in Florida and I know business owners with dumpsters tv's go in them legally. He is from Kentucky and I don't know his laws, it was just an idea.

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    State by state may differ, but here is some info from a 2005 EPA document

    Specifically, generators of more than 1,000 kilograms of hazardous
    waste in a month (considered large quantity generators (LQGs)) are
    required to comply fully with the federal hazardous waste regulations.
    On the other hand, generators of more than 100 kilograms but less than
    1,000 kilograms of hazardous waste in a calendar month (considered
    small quantity generators (SQGs)) are subject to the RCRA hazardous
    waste management standards, but are allowed to comply with certain
    reduced regulatory requirements (see 40 CFR 262.34(d), (e), and (f)).
    In addition, under 40 CFR 261.5, conditionally-exempt small quantity
    generators (CESQGs), defined as facilities that generate less than 100
    kilograms of hazardous waste in a calendar month, are not subject to
    the RCRA subtitle C hazardous waste management standards, provided they
    send their waste to a municipal solid waste landfill or non-municipal
    nonhazardous waste facility approved by the state for the management of
    CESQG wastes. Finally, households that generate spent mercury-
    containing equipment are exempt from the federal hazardous waste
    management requirements under the household hazardous waste exemption
    in 40 CFR 261.4(b)(1).

    http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-WAST...-05/f15437.htm

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    CRT tubes are not considered hazardous waste under federal law

    http://www.epa.gov/wastes/hazard/rec...n/crt-fs06.htm

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    EPA is providing conditional exclusions from the federal hazardous waste management standards for CRTs and CRT glass destined for recycling. These safe, yet simplified standards aim to increase the collection and recycling of CRTs, and to reduce the amount of lead in landfills by allowing the lead to be reused to make new CRT glass or sent to lead smelters.
    Under these regulations, used, unbroken CRTs are not regulated as hazardous waste unless they are stored for more than a year. EPA is setting simpler, more manageable standards for unbroken CRTs because the risk of lead releases from them is very low. Since the risk is so low, the storage limitation on unbroken CRTs applies only to collectors or recyclers.

    Used, broken CRTs are not regulated as hazardous waste as long as the following conditions
    are met:

    • CRT containers are clearly labeled regarding contents;


    • CRTs are safely transported in containers designed to minimize releases;


    • CRTs are stored in a building or container designed to minimize releases; and


    • CRTs are stored on site less than one year before recycling them.


    To remain unregulated, CRTs undergoing glass processing must follow the same requirements, except they must be processed inside a building, at temperatures not high enough to volatilize lead from the glass. CRT glass that has been processed and sent to a CRT glass manufacturer or a lead smelter also is unregulated unless it is stored for more than one year (see above) or used in a manner constituting disposal (applied to the land). CRT glass going to any other kind of recycler may be eligible for exemption under existing regulations.

    Exporters shipping broken or unbroken CRTs to another country for recycling must notify EPA and receive written consent from the receiving country through EPA before shipments can be made. This requirement is similar to those applicable to exporters of hazardous waste, which are found at 40 CFR Part 262. Exporters shipping used, unbroken CRTs for reuse as computers to another country must submit a one-time notification to EPA.
    State environmental laws differ. And none of this means the garbage companies or scrap yards will take the tubes if they don't want them.

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    One difference between the two EPA docs is that the first concerns landfill disposal of CRTs, the second discusses CRTs destined for recycling.

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    [QUOTE][CRT Monitors-Stay in or get out
    I have been scrapping for 5 months. I had a glass disposal source for crt tubes, but I was just told they couldn't take them from me anymore.

    Looking for a good disposal option for greater Cincinnati area.

    So far no luck and I have 100's of crt monitors.

    I have a great deal set up that keeps me flush with material, but the CRT's keep coming.

    Not sure what to do??

    thanks /QUOTE] Im in KY also. And I have to either pay to get rid of my tubes or donate them to a place in louisville. Cant think of the name of it right off the top of my head. Lately I have been selling mine to a yard in etown. Pay isnt much but beats trying to get rid of all the plastic and glass. As for the trash pick up 1 day they will take them 1 day they wont some days they want the tube busted others they dont. Asfor the regulations on it here who knows. I have asked but no one seems to know.

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    For Kentucky

    http://ag.ky.gov/civil/environment.htm

    Electronic waste
    Computer scrap, particularly the cathode ray tubes (CRTs) from computer monitors, contain significant amounts of leaded glass that the EPA has classified as hazardous waste. In sufficient volume, this material can pose life-threatening hazards. Computer systems also contain significant amounts of lead circuitry, mercury and cadmium which are also listed wastes. In general, computer systems or components contain the following hazardous materials:

    1.Lead in the glass of monitors (CRTs);
    2.Mercury in flat-panel displays (both laptop and stand-alone);
    3.Lead, chromium, silver, cadmium, and mercury in printed circuit boards (varies with make and model);
    4.Lead, mercury, cadmium, and lithium in batteries in units;
    5.PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) in circuit boards from before early 1980s.
    Under provisions of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) and state law, businesses that send electronic waste for disposal are generators of hazardous waste and must follow RCRA requirements in compliance with its classification as a small or large quantity generator. If electronic scrap is sent out for recycling, it is not considered hazardous waste and holds no liability. Businesses still have the obligation to ensure that their scrap is sold or sent to legitimate recyclers, re-users, or disposal companies.

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    Wow..thanks waredu! You got my first official "thanks" for that info.

    I was chosen to write up and present my company with a proposal on whether or not I felt our company should get into e-waste recycling. The governor of Colorado just signed a bill into law that makes it ILLEGAL to send electronic waste to landfills. This goes into effect July, 2013 after a public service campaign to educate the good citizens of Colorado on what to do with all the electronics that were being disposed of in the landfills. All these electronics must now be recycled by a certified company. I read this and almost fell out of my chair. This means that should we decide to accept e-waste we will be getting tons and tons of it for FREE! (Unless of course they break it down into shippable commodities such as boards, heat sinks, copper wire). The biggest hurdle that I was faced with was what to do with undesirable (undesirable in the eyes of my company) by-products such as CRTs.

    I have spent the better part of the week reading any viable information I can find and also hours on the phone talking to the EPA, lobbyist etc. trying to find out what hoops we need to jump through to get this thing off the ground. Any info that y'all think might be pertinent to my quest please throw it at me. I now have visions dancing through my head of electronic drives at my yard, where we get multiple tons of electronics for free!

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    I found a great local source slash recyler who takes them....ummm...for 15 bucks a pop...I said...uhh...thanks, but...a bit counterproductive for me...so now...i try to avoid all crt as much as possible although everyone wants to keep giving the **** to me...

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    Thank you for all your ideas....we will keep looking.

    We are committed to doing this the right way. We talked to our local waste management and there is no "legal"way to throw away.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohemianLush View Post
    Wow..thanks waredu! You got my first official "thanks" for that info.

    I was chosen to write up and present my company with a proposal on whether or not I felt our company should get into e-waste recycling. The governor of Colorado just signed a bill into law that makes it ILLEGAL to send electronic waste to landfills. This goes into effect July, 2013 after a public service campaign to educate the good citizens of Colorado on what to do with all the electronics that were being disposed of in the landfills. All these electronics must now be recycled by a certified company. I read this and almost fell out of my chair. This means that should we decide to accept e-waste we will be getting tons and tons of it for FREE! (Unless of course they break it down into shippable commodities such as boards, heat sinks, copper wire). The biggest hurdle that I was faced with was what to do with undesirable (undesirable in the eyes of my company) by-products such as CRTs.

    I have spent the better part of the week reading any viable information I can find and also hours on the phone talking to the EPA, lobbyist etc. trying to find out what hoops we need to jump through to get this thing off the ground. Any info that y'all think might be pertinent to my quest please throw it at me. I now have visions dancing through my head of electronic drives at my yard, where we get multiple tons of electronics for free!
    Well if you get that big with the ewaste then I would think the plastic buyers would come to you, cause if you guys break it down your going to generate quite a bit.
    http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/showt...ighlight=tubes

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    Quote Originally Posted by beimer View Post
    Thank you for all your ideas....we will keep looking.

    We are committed to doing this the right way. We talked to our local waste management and there is no "legal"way to throw away.

    thanks
    Your local waste management is correct. You cannot legally put CRTs in a landfill - the EPA considers them hazardous waste in a landfill. However, they can be recycled (and even shipped out of the country with proper permits) without them being considered hazardous waste.

    You need to find a recycler or manufacturer that will accept them. Just a quick check on ThomasNET found 3 manufacturers within 250 miles of Louisville http://www.thomasnet.com/nsearch.htm...&navsec=modify You might try giving them a call to see if they take them.


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